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00:01:56,030 --> 00:01:53,159 you guys are in for really really 44 00:01:58,999 --> 00:01:56,040 awesome show tonight I can't even tell 45 00:02:03,080 --> 00:01:59,009 you so I'm gonna go and just dive right 46 00:02:04,459 --> 00:02:03,090 in oh I have to tell you first I usually 47 00:02:06,170 --> 00:02:04,469 do the outlandish corner and I've been 48 00:02:07,999 --> 00:02:06,180 better about that but last week I did a 49 00:02:09,050 --> 00:02:08,009 full show of the outlandish corner and 50 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:09,060 that's where I take your comments and 51 00:02:13,240 --> 00:02:10,770 questions and things that you 52 00:02:16,030 --> 00:02:13,250 experienced personally and 53 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:16,040 but the whole time answering those and 54 00:02:21,000 --> 00:02:19,010 so this week I was going to skip that 55 00:02:23,320 --> 00:02:21,010 but the outlandish corner is always open 56 00:02:25,390 --> 00:02:23,330 send me whatever it is that you're 57 00:02:28,570 --> 00:02:25,400 experiencing out there from aliens to 58 00:02:29,290 --> 00:02:28,580 angels shadow people all that stuff to 59 00:02:31,900 --> 00:02:29,300 dust 60 00:02:34,390 --> 00:02:31,910 Outlander at gmail.com that's Diaz and 61 00:02:36,330 --> 00:02:34,400 David a SS and Sam Outlander at 62 00:02:40,449 --> 00:02:36,340 gmail.com or just go to my main website 63 00:02:43,690 --> 00:02:40,459 Heidi Hollis comm and you'll find the 64 00:02:47,229 --> 00:02:43,700 way now I'm gonna dive in and introduce 65 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:47,239 my fantastic and awesome guest for this 66 00:02:52,570 --> 00:02:49,370 evening you guys are gonna be floored 67 00:02:55,390 --> 00:02:52,580 rusty McClure he is a New York Times 68 00:02:58,300 --> 00:02:55,400 bestselling author of Crossley the story 69 00:03:01,180 --> 00:02:58,310 of the birth of consumer radio that took 70 00:03:04,479 --> 00:03:01,190 place in Cincinnati his novel 71 00:03:07,120 --> 00:03:04,489 Cincinnatus begins with homestead 72 00:03:09,790 --> 00:03:07,130 florida's coral castle and delves into 73 00:03:12,520 --> 00:03:09,800 several other historic and fascinating 74 00:03:14,949 --> 00:03:12,530 American elements including the Society 75 00:03:16,780 --> 00:03:14,959 of Cincinnati America's oldest military 76 00:03:20,440 --> 00:03:16,790 society I have a lot of family over 77 00:03:23,199 --> 00:03:20,450 there rusty is also a Harvard MBA and 78 00:03:26,170 --> 00:03:23,209 graduate of Emory University's Graduate 79 00:03:29,140 --> 00:03:26,180 School of divinity and he's here to talk 80 00:03:31,960 --> 00:03:29,150 about the subject of his fantastic book 81 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:31,970 Coral Castle everybody give her a round 82 00:03:37,180 --> 00:03:34,610 of applause for rusty McClure they're 83 00:03:39,729 --> 00:03:37,190 going crazy rusty I'm so happy I got you 84 00:03:43,560 --> 00:03:39,739 for tonight how are you doing I'm doing 85 00:03:46,750 --> 00:03:43,570 great awesome way to be on the show 86 00:03:50,710 --> 00:03:46,760 are you kidding me this is going to be a 87 00:03:53,770 --> 00:03:50,720 fantastic show I I just totally dig the 88 00:03:56,770 --> 00:03:53,780 mystery of Coral Castle and there's so 89 00:03:59,110 --> 00:03:56,780 much to get to in regards to it I guess 90 00:04:01,090 --> 00:03:59,120 it's best to kind of begin from the 91 00:04:03,310 --> 00:04:01,100 beginning with you and how you came 92 00:04:11,020 --> 00:04:03,320 across this mystery and why you found it 93 00:04:12,610 --> 00:04:11,030 so fascinating well I was in Miami at 94 00:04:20,069 --> 00:04:12,620 one of those restaurants where they have 95 00:04:25,870 --> 00:04:22,810 tourist places you can go to a little 96 00:04:27,070 --> 00:04:25,880 you know the little pamphlets yeah so I 97 00:04:29,740 --> 00:04:27,080 grabbed him up on the way 98 00:04:32,499 --> 00:04:29,750 to the restaurant and I started reading 99 00:04:37,869 --> 00:04:32,509 him and pitching him and I find one that 100 00:04:40,390 --> 00:04:37,879 describes to Coral Castle and I was in 101 00:04:43,589 --> 00:04:40,400 Florida visiting my wife and I were 102 00:04:47,610 --> 00:04:43,599 visiting her parents are in-laws and 103 00:04:50,469 --> 00:04:47,620 Hurricane Andrew had blasted through 104 00:04:53,080 --> 00:04:50,479 Homestead and we couldn't go visit it 105 00:04:56,320 --> 00:04:53,090 because it was all closed down and the 106 00:04:58,420 --> 00:04:56,330 truth is the only place in Homestead it 107 00:05:00,820 --> 00:04:58,430 survived it was that Coral Castle but 108 00:05:03,279 --> 00:05:00,830 the national garden because of a Air 109 00:05:05,670 --> 00:05:03,289 Force Base and so forth we couldn't go 110 00:05:08,709 --> 00:05:05,680 down there and that was in the early 111 00:05:10,510 --> 00:05:08,719 1990s and I just started because I was 112 00:05:13,749 --> 00:05:10,520 denied probably going there and I read a 113 00:05:17,790 --> 00:05:13,759 lot I started paying attention to Ed 114 00:05:20,559 --> 00:05:17,800 Leedskalnin in his Coral Castle and 115 00:05:22,809 --> 00:05:20,569 that's how I got interested in it so one 116 00:05:25,029 --> 00:05:22,819 day I got to visit it Wow 117 00:05:27,879 --> 00:05:25,039 so what was that first visit like I've 118 00:05:29,790 --> 00:05:27,889 never been there I mean is it just take 119 00:05:35,800 --> 00:05:29,800 your breath away I mean what is it like 120 00:05:39,519 --> 00:05:35,810 I started as you said working backwards 121 00:05:44,050 --> 00:05:39,529 to the biography of Eden I guess the 122 00:05:48,339 --> 00:05:44,060 biography of the castle by interjecting 123 00:05:50,279 --> 00:05:48,349 it into a novel that and starting the 124 00:05:53,320 --> 00:05:50,289 novel actually with the mystery of 125 00:05:55,980 --> 00:05:53,330 whatever secret he used to build that 126 00:06:00,610 --> 00:05:55,990 castle and we took it off from there and 127 00:06:03,070 --> 00:06:00,620 we wanted to do research and as we had 128 00:06:05,050 --> 00:06:03,080 builded up in our heads so high just 129 00:06:08,140 --> 00:06:05,060 before we pulled up in the parking lot 130 00:06:12,610 --> 00:06:08,150 found it in what is now basically 131 00:06:15,249 --> 00:06:12,620 Downton homestead we were worried that 132 00:06:18,329 --> 00:06:15,259 we were going to be disappointed you 133 00:06:25,029 --> 00:06:18,339 know what happens if this was flimsy 134 00:06:28,290 --> 00:06:25,039 small and a disappointment and so as we 135 00:06:30,939 --> 00:06:28,300 rounded into the parking lot we were 136 00:06:34,839 --> 00:06:30,949 kind of scared that what it was what I 137 00:06:36,100 --> 00:06:34,849 just said and here it was and now it's 138 00:06:37,389 --> 00:06:36,110 not the biggest castle it's not a 139 00:06:40,510 --> 00:06:37,399 European castle 140 00:06:42,309 --> 00:06:40,520 it's not massive but when 141 00:06:43,960 --> 00:06:42,319 you realize this guy was 5 feet tall and 142 00:06:47,770 --> 00:06:43,970 he built it by himself this thing is 143 00:06:49,629 --> 00:06:47,780 very very large and so all of a sudden 144 00:06:52,420 --> 00:06:49,639 we're looking at it I mean the walls are 145 00:06:59,080 --> 00:06:52,430 three and four feet thick 146 00:07:03,159 --> 00:06:59,090 they're 810 feet high they are 12 to 20 147 00:07:06,809 --> 00:07:03,169 feet long and they are it is indeed a 148 00:07:09,909 --> 00:07:06,819 very large castle I mean these walls are 149 00:07:13,689 --> 00:07:09,919 big thick walls and then what you find 150 00:07:17,790 --> 00:07:13,699 inside or even bigger than the walls I 151 00:07:21,430 --> 00:07:17,800 mean there's obelisk that are taller and 152 00:07:25,240 --> 00:07:21,440 heavier than the biggest obelisk and 153 00:07:28,089 --> 00:07:25,250 Stonehenge now the tribes do it took 154 00:07:29,290 --> 00:07:28,099 tribes of Druids two and three hundred 155 00:07:33,730 --> 00:07:29,300 years the drags 156 00:07:36,909 --> 00:07:33,740 Stonehenge together this guy inside of a 157 00:07:38,050 --> 00:07:36,919 very small lifetime twenty thirty years 158 00:07:42,219 --> 00:07:38,060 of his lifetime 159 00:07:44,709 --> 00:07:42,229 built this castle all by himself total 160 00:07:48,969 --> 00:07:44,719 it is very very large castle given what 161 00:07:51,999 --> 00:07:48,979 I just told you and in comparison the 162 00:07:55,149 --> 00:07:52,009 type of stone that he uses coral what 163 00:07:58,019 --> 00:07:55,159 how does that compare with other stone 164 00:08:01,990 --> 00:07:58,029 structures in the world as far as weight 165 00:08:07,689 --> 00:08:02,000 difficulty to work with it's very heavy 166 00:08:11,769 --> 00:08:07,699 and it's very brittle so this guy had 167 00:08:15,939 --> 00:08:11,779 was able to carve these big chunks of it 168 00:08:18,490 --> 00:08:15,949 and lift them when any mistake you'd 169 00:08:20,680 --> 00:08:18,500 make probably would have shattered him 170 00:08:22,719 --> 00:08:20,690 you know would have would have dinged 171 00:08:25,689 --> 00:08:22,729 him up at least and put cracks in them 172 00:08:27,430 --> 00:08:25,699 yeah and that didn't happen I mean it 173 00:08:30,670 --> 00:08:27,440 didn't happen much because you would 174 00:08:34,389 --> 00:08:30,680 seen it all around on the floor of the 175 00:08:37,149 --> 00:08:34,399 castle I mean he cut these things in a 176 00:08:41,199 --> 00:08:37,159 way that nobody knows how he exactly did 177 00:08:43,300 --> 00:08:41,209 it so precisely and it was not easy 178 00:08:44,440 --> 00:08:43,310 there was when you look at it you know 179 00:08:47,889 --> 00:08:44,450 wasn't easy 180 00:08:51,069 --> 00:08:47,899 are there any tool markings not much 181 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:51,079 it's very there it's there's no chips 182 00:08:54,340 --> 00:08:52,850 around they've even had a little like 183 00:08:56,980 --> 00:08:54,350 people tried to stir 184 00:08:59,320 --> 00:08:56,990 it almost like an archeological dig if 185 00:09:02,980 --> 00:08:59,330 you would yeah and what they realized 186 00:09:05,890 --> 00:09:02,990 very quickly is he cut these things once 187 00:09:08,920 --> 00:09:05,900 there's not all these chip fragments and 188 00:09:11,710 --> 00:09:08,930 and pieces all around where he messed up 189 00:09:17,140 --> 00:09:11,720 he was really good at cutting these 190 00:09:21,580 --> 00:09:17,150 things straight and he got these stones 191 00:09:24,700 --> 00:09:21,590 where was he harvesting them from he 192 00:09:26,530 --> 00:09:24,710 harvests them right from there if you go 193 00:09:29,710 --> 00:09:26,540 to South Florida and you dig down 194 00:09:32,650 --> 00:09:29,720 through the rich topsoil a foot or two 195 00:09:37,740 --> 00:09:32,660 or three depending on how deep it is you 196 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:37,750 reach light limestone ool ite 197 00:09:44,070 --> 00:09:40,730 limestone we call it coral rock and it's 198 00:09:48,250 --> 00:09:44,080 just all over there the basin of the 199 00:09:50,560 --> 00:09:48,260 Everglades and he minded it right there 200 00:09:53,260 --> 00:09:50,570 pulled right up at pulled it right up 201 00:09:56,380 --> 00:09:53,270 out of the rock after he got the top 202 00:09:57,910 --> 00:09:56,390 soil removed scraped away so that's I 203 00:09:59,500 --> 00:09:57,920 was curious about that you know it's 204 00:10:01,120 --> 00:09:59,510 like this guy went back and forth and 205 00:10:05,340 --> 00:10:01,130 brought those stones from somewhere but 206 00:10:08,440 --> 00:10:05,350 he did it right on his own land this one 207 00:10:12,790 --> 00:10:08,450 Astra's to that if that is the very 208 00:10:17,320 --> 00:10:12,800 first time he built much of the elements 209 00:10:20,920 --> 00:10:17,330 of the castle 1012 miles away in Florida 210 00:10:26,350 --> 00:10:20,930 City and halfway through the project 211 00:10:29,710 --> 00:10:26,360 let's say in the 1930s he moved it to 212 00:10:34,360 --> 00:10:29,720 South Dixie Highway what is now 213 00:10:37,390 --> 00:10:34,370 basically part of downtown homestead so 214 00:10:40,390 --> 00:10:37,400 he did take it from one place to another 215 00:10:42,570 --> 00:10:40,400 but only because he moved his castle and 216 00:10:46,500 --> 00:10:42,580 moved the elements of his castles use 217 00:10:49,480 --> 00:10:46,510 then gonna build the rest of the castle 218 00:10:52,510 --> 00:10:49,490 so that's fascinating so when when I 219 00:10:58,500 --> 00:10:52,520 think about coral I mean it's it's kind 220 00:11:03,880 --> 00:10:58,510 of a jagged looking stone yeah 221 00:11:05,950 --> 00:11:03,890 accidentally bump into it yeah it's 222 00:11:08,260 --> 00:11:05,960 jagged but I mean it's he cut it 223 00:11:09,880 --> 00:11:08,270 smoothly but it's still a jagged rock 224 00:11:13,330 --> 00:11:09,890 go to look at it and I encourage 225 00:11:14,980 --> 00:11:13,340 everybody who's listening to go and see 226 00:11:17,140 --> 00:11:14,990 this for themselves they will not be 227 00:11:19,330 --> 00:11:17,150 disappointed because you won't be 228 00:11:22,210 --> 00:11:19,340 disappointed how long does it take for 229 00:11:24,580 --> 00:11:22,220 you to go through this castle 230 00:11:28,750 --> 00:11:24,590 pretty methodically I mean as an as a 231 00:11:30,940 --> 00:11:28,760 new tourist 45 minutes hour hour and 15 232 00:11:32,350 --> 00:11:30,950 minutes if you want to go back and you 233 00:11:36,520 --> 00:11:32,360 know marvel at some of the things you've 234 00:11:38,800 --> 00:11:36,530 seen the second time it's it's large for 235 00:11:40,690 --> 00:11:38,810 a guy who is 5 feet tall weighed a 236 00:11:44,800 --> 00:11:40,700 hundred pounds to have lived there and 237 00:11:47,230 --> 00:11:44,810 build it it's not you know it's like I 238 00:11:50,020 --> 00:11:47,240 said before it's not at European castle 239 00:11:52,570 --> 00:11:50,030 where you know horses and knights and 240 00:11:55,510 --> 00:11:52,580 whole city would village would live 241 00:11:58,920 --> 00:11:55,520 inside of it it's it's it's a very large 242 00:12:03,010 --> 00:11:58,930 castle for one little hermit to have 243 00:12:05,140 --> 00:12:03,020 built and call and called own and called 244 00:12:08,370 --> 00:12:05,150 him and he lived there the entire time 245 00:12:11,170 --> 00:12:08,380 he was building this thing yes he did 246 00:12:14,410 --> 00:12:11,180 you know at the first location and then 247 00:12:17,140 --> 00:12:14,420 there's a second location wow that's 248 00:12:21,100 --> 00:12:17,150 fascinating and that he moved it that I 249 00:12:24,900 --> 00:12:21,110 don't think I heard before yeah he moved 250 00:12:27,490 --> 00:12:24,910 it and he hired a guy who was a local 251 00:12:30,820 --> 00:12:27,500 guy because he had a great big truck and 252 00:12:32,860 --> 00:12:30,830 he had big balloon tires and one of the 253 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:32,870 things we have to always remember is 254 00:12:39,010 --> 00:12:36,530 that documented is that nobody ever saw 255 00:12:42,610 --> 00:12:39,020 him really do the work he was very 256 00:12:46,900 --> 00:12:42,620 secretive and he was very remotely at 257 00:12:50,200 --> 00:12:46,910 the time removed from the small 800 or 258 00:12:55,440 --> 00:12:50,210 so people who lived in homestead village 259 00:13:02,260 --> 00:12:55,450 let's call it not even a city and and so 260 00:13:06,000 --> 00:13:02,270 he hires a local gentleman to bring his 261 00:13:09,630 --> 00:13:06,010 big flatbed truck with balloon tires and 262 00:13:14,740 --> 00:13:09,640 then he loads these major elements on 263 00:13:18,100 --> 00:13:14,750 the flatbed truck while the guy leaves 264 00:13:20,740 --> 00:13:18,110 the truck so he can't watch him do it 265 00:13:21,990 --> 00:13:20,750 and the guy like nobody can believe that 266 00:13:24,780 --> 00:13:22,000 a guy could pick up all these 267 00:13:29,100 --> 00:13:24,790 big pieces and put them on the truck and 268 00:13:32,340 --> 00:13:29,110 then he made the loads through homestead 269 00:13:35,040 --> 00:13:32,350 and the people saw the elements come 270 00:13:37,830 --> 00:13:35,050 through on this truck and go to the new 271 00:13:41,370 --> 00:13:37,840 location but they never got to see him 272 00:13:44,700 --> 00:13:41,380 load or unload any of it he would not 273 00:13:47,160 --> 00:13:44,710 allow any of the lifting to be observed 274 00:13:48,900 --> 00:13:47,170 any more than in the building and that 275 00:13:52,800 --> 00:13:48,910 but they would be in the general 276 00:13:55,620 --> 00:13:52,810 vicinity when he was doing it he's tried 277 00:13:57,230 --> 00:13:55,630 to sneak up on him he had little he 278 00:14:00,150 --> 00:13:57,240 worked mostly at night almost 279 00:14:02,760 --> 00:14:00,160 exclusively at night okay and people 280 00:14:07,460 --> 00:14:02,770 would try to stake him out I mean one 281 00:14:10,500 --> 00:14:07,470 lady took her kids out in a car and 282 00:14:13,110 --> 00:14:10,510 quietly rolled the car are close to 283 00:14:15,750 --> 00:14:13,120 where he was working and he had these 284 00:14:18,090 --> 00:14:15,760 little view points where he could look 285 00:14:21,030 --> 00:14:18,100 through the cracks and you know kind of 286 00:14:23,520 --> 00:14:21,040 got any castle and yeah he yelled at her 287 00:14:25,860 --> 00:14:23,530 and waved at her and said how are they 288 00:14:28,380 --> 00:14:25,870 and he and immediately stopped working 289 00:14:31,170 --> 00:14:28,390 and that's what he did all the time he 290 00:14:33,480 --> 00:14:31,180 would he would not let people observe 291 00:14:36,329 --> 00:14:33,490 him working he would stop working if 292 00:14:40,260 --> 00:14:36,339 they try to sneak up at night did they 293 00:14:44,280 --> 00:14:40,270 ever say they heard something strange 294 00:14:47,640 --> 00:14:44,290 like hi hums or anything you know like 295 00:14:50,940 --> 00:14:47,650 loud humming or anything or I couldn't 296 00:14:52,440 --> 00:14:50,950 know I mean I think we have to walk 297 00:14:54,980 --> 00:14:52,450 through the different elements and and 298 00:14:59,579 --> 00:14:54,990 and how he got this going okay 299 00:15:02,460 --> 00:14:59,589 inside the castle in addition to big 300 00:15:06,110 --> 00:15:02,470 walls and I refer to it and their 301 00:15:09,720 --> 00:15:06,120 elements there's also a very large 302 00:15:14,900 --> 00:15:09,730 almost medieval like I would say 303 00:15:18,270 --> 00:15:14,910 medieval fort like two-story living 304 00:15:22,620 --> 00:15:18,280 portion of the castle huge slabs of 305 00:15:26,730 --> 00:15:22,630 these of these some of these pieces of 306 00:15:30,780 --> 00:15:26,740 carved pieces of this boolite limestone 307 00:15:35,100 --> 00:15:30,790 coral rock mark two stories high he 308 00:15:35,910 --> 00:15:35,110 built a stair steps he's built stair 309 00:15:40,639 --> 00:15:35,920 steps 310 00:15:46,500 --> 00:15:40,649 to it in one slab he carved a slab as 16 311 00:15:48,360 --> 00:15:46,510 major stairs one piece I mean I look at 312 00:15:51,710 --> 00:15:48,370 it go I would but I would have made 313 00:15:54,600 --> 00:15:51,720 pieces and jigsaw dit together well yeah 314 00:16:00,060 --> 00:15:54,610 he does this in one great big piece and 315 00:16:03,930 --> 00:16:00,070 it so he lives upstairs and walls are 316 00:16:07,530 --> 00:16:03,940 every bit of three maybe four feet 317 00:16:09,689 --> 00:16:07,540 some places thick you know hot forward a 318 00:16:13,740 --> 00:16:09,699 South Florida Sun yeah 319 00:16:18,180 --> 00:16:13,750 and below directly below on the first 320 00:16:22,639 --> 00:16:18,190 floor is this workshop now you asked 321 00:16:26,460 --> 00:16:22,649 about humming yeah he has a complete and 322 00:16:27,990 --> 00:16:26,470 not a complete at the time but not 323 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:28,000 complete now so we don't know what all 324 00:16:32,569 --> 00:16:30,850 the elements were generator to make 325 00:16:39,720 --> 00:16:32,579 electricity 326 00:16:42,960 --> 00:16:39,730 this is 1930s late 40s rural Florida 327 00:16:46,590 --> 00:16:42,970 he's built his own generator to make 328 00:16:50,970 --> 00:16:46,600 electricity he has it's also constructed 329 00:16:54,120 --> 00:16:50,980 his own radio and strung and this is and 330 00:16:58,040 --> 00:16:54,130 made tubes out of wine bottles that he's 331 00:17:01,920 --> 00:16:58,050 taken wire and wrapped around them and 332 00:17:04,730 --> 00:17:01,930 created his own crystal radio and then 333 00:17:09,840 --> 00:17:04,740 he has built a pretty powerful 334 00:17:12,000 --> 00:17:09,850 transmitting unit to transmit radio so 335 00:17:16,460 --> 00:17:12,010 people have heard that coming 336 00:17:21,659 --> 00:17:16,470 it's a I mean so this guy is not just a 337 00:17:27,470 --> 00:17:21,669 rock mason we're a rock levitator 338 00:17:34,620 --> 00:17:27,480 whatever fulcrum lever guy he also has 339 00:17:39,180 --> 00:17:34,630 scientific electric radio mentalities 340 00:17:44,820 --> 00:17:39,190 what was his background he was third or 341 00:17:49,289 --> 00:17:44,830 fourth grade educated Latvian immigrant 342 00:17:54,659 --> 00:17:49,299 to the United States whose grandfather 343 00:17:58,529 --> 00:17:54,669 was a stonemason ah okay when he was 26 344 00:18:01,560 --> 00:17:58,539 years old he was going to marry a 16 345 00:18:05,369 --> 00:18:01,570 year old girl in Riga Latvia oh I love 346 00:18:08,310 --> 00:18:05,379 this story she's told him the night 347 00:18:10,859 --> 00:18:08,320 before they were gonna get married she 348 00:18:14,039 --> 00:18:10,869 wasn't gonna go through with it yeah he 349 00:18:20,159 --> 00:18:14,049 was strange he was something the next 350 00:18:24,029 --> 00:18:20,169 day he bolted laughs not just Riga he 351 00:18:27,029 --> 00:18:24,039 left home he left Latvia and he headed 352 00:18:35,369 --> 00:18:27,039 for him Hamburg Germany and he got on a 353 00:18:37,139 --> 00:18:35,379 ship and landed in on Ellis Island he 354 00:18:40,859 --> 00:18:37,149 lands on Ellis Island goes through 355 00:18:44,009 --> 00:18:40,869 immigration with two other Latvians ends 356 00:18:47,789 --> 00:18:44,019 up in New Jersey now we know this 357 00:18:49,169 --> 00:18:47,799 because he had to pass papers everywhere 358 00:18:51,989 --> 00:18:49,179 he went you know you don't get through 359 00:18:54,539 --> 00:18:51,999 Ellis Island without without papers and 360 00:18:57,090 --> 00:18:54,549 documentation the ultimen he ultimately 361 00:18:59,849 --> 00:18:57,100 takes those skills those skills of 362 00:19:04,820 --> 00:18:59,859 cutting rock that he some learned in his 363 00:19:08,129 --> 00:19:04,830 family and goes to Washington Oregon 364 00:19:10,609 --> 00:19:08,139 British Columbia where he's cutting logs 365 00:19:15,629 --> 00:19:10,619 and he's a lumber man with his great big 366 00:19:17,430 --> 00:19:15,639 lumber camps we came over here by 367 00:19:19,200 --> 00:19:17,440 himself right he comes over here by 368 00:19:22,680 --> 00:19:19,210 himself and joins up somehow with 369 00:19:25,440 --> 00:19:22,690 anything with two Latvians a couple and 370 00:19:27,389 --> 00:19:25,450 they have family in New Jersey and he 371 00:19:31,080 --> 00:19:27,399 spends a little bit of time in New 372 00:19:37,499 --> 00:19:31,090 Jersey before he heads west he crosses 373 00:19:39,869 --> 00:19:37,509 over as a Latvian citizen he crosses 374 00:19:44,460 --> 00:19:39,879 over the borders between Canada and the 375 00:19:46,560 --> 00:19:44,470 United States and has to pass papers and 376 00:19:49,499 --> 00:19:46,570 every time he does that it's documented 377 00:19:51,989 --> 00:19:49,509 so we kind of do a forensic and that's 378 00:19:53,879 --> 00:19:51,999 how we know where he went I mean we know 379 00:19:56,399 --> 00:19:53,889 what ship he sailed on to the United 380 00:19:58,919 --> 00:19:56,409 States we know that he went back and 381 00:20:02,980 --> 00:19:58,929 forth across it Canadian United States 382 00:20:05,320 --> 00:20:02,990 border where he changed his height from 383 00:20:08,950 --> 00:20:05,330 five-foot-one he grew up to five foot 384 00:20:10,450 --> 00:20:08,960 three even five foot five sometimes we 385 00:20:12,370 --> 00:20:10,460 interview people who knew him and 386 00:20:14,019 --> 00:20:12,380 homestead four he said if he was five 387 00:20:16,389 --> 00:20:14,029 feet tall he might have been five foot 388 00:20:18,639 --> 00:20:16,399 one but he was never he was definitely 389 00:20:26,889 --> 00:20:18,649 never higher that taller than five foot 390 00:20:28,659 --> 00:20:26,899 one yeah he's uh you know he's he's it 391 00:20:30,880 --> 00:20:28,669 feels bad about his height we can 392 00:20:34,380 --> 00:20:30,890 imagine because yeah pumping it up 393 00:20:37,840 --> 00:20:34,390 alright the next thing we know for sure 394 00:20:42,220 --> 00:20:37,850 is that he ends up on the side of the 395 00:20:46,120 --> 00:20:42,230 road Homestead Florida in the ditch I'm 396 00:20:49,000 --> 00:20:46,130 he's lying there emaciated the guy picks 397 00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:49,010 him up a local townsman picks him up and 398 00:20:53,350 --> 00:20:50,330 takes him out to the hospital 399 00:20:55,630 --> 00:20:53,360 cuz this town it only has 800 people so 400 00:20:57,820 --> 00:20:55,640 they take him to that the only doctor in 401 00:21:04,110 --> 00:20:57,830 town the doctor diagnosed the same stage 402 00:21:06,370 --> 00:21:04,120 for tuberculosis oh gosh no it's 1923 403 00:21:09,190 --> 00:21:06,380 there's no penicillin there's no 404 00:21:11,289 --> 00:21:09,200 antibiotics and that's like you don't 405 00:21:14,470 --> 00:21:11,299 want to state the word stage four in 406 00:21:18,220 --> 00:21:14,480 tuberculosis same in the same sentence 407 00:21:21,310 --> 00:21:18,230 and the same Good Samaritan guy who 408 00:21:25,029 --> 00:21:21,320 picked him up takes him home and he and 409 00:21:27,820 --> 00:21:25,039 his wife put him in a tool shed with his 410 00:21:32,669 --> 00:21:27,830 wife and he turned into a hospice type 411 00:21:35,010 --> 00:21:32,679 bed bedroom for him to die to die in 412 00:21:39,100 --> 00:21:35,020 they could have got sick from that 413 00:21:41,950 --> 00:21:39,110 exactly exactly and the doctor says the 414 00:21:44,409 --> 00:21:41,960 doctor says he has no more than six 415 00:21:50,919 --> 00:21:44,419 months to live he probably dead in 100 416 00:21:54,700 --> 00:21:50,929 days 18 months later the doctor is 417 00:21:57,510 --> 00:21:54,710 visiting him asking him how he kept 418 00:21:59,980 --> 00:21:57,520 himself alive and cured himself and 419 00:22:01,570 --> 00:21:59,990 Edward lead Scotland tells the doctor 420 00:22:02,169 --> 00:22:01,580 that he used the powers of magnet 421 00:22:06,760 --> 00:22:02,179 tricity 422 00:22:09,909 --> 00:22:06,770 to cure himself years later when he's 423 00:22:14,260 --> 00:22:09,919 giving tours of his castle 424 00:22:16,840 --> 00:22:14,270 people are asking him how he built his 425 00:22:23,160 --> 00:22:16,850 castle by himself one 426 00:22:25,540 --> 00:22:23,170 man little man heavy heavy stone and 427 00:22:27,970 --> 00:22:25,550 everywhere Leedskalnin would tell them 428 00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:27,980 he used the powers of magnet tricity to 429 00:22:35,980 --> 00:22:31,130 lift the stone same seat say the same 430 00:22:42,750 --> 00:22:35,990 thing he never really explained what 431 00:22:47,170 --> 00:22:42,760 bang knew tricity was 1951 he got ill 432 00:22:50,740 --> 00:22:47,180 got on a bus wrote to Jackson Memorial 433 00:22:54,460 --> 00:22:50,750 Hospital in Miami checked himself in and 434 00:22:59,230 --> 00:22:54,470 died we think with the city with a 435 00:23:04,300 --> 00:22:59,240 secret so that castle how old was he 436 00:23:07,840 --> 00:23:04,310 when he passed 64 years old 64 I'm 64 437 00:23:11,100 --> 00:23:07,850 years old that was not you know this is 438 00:23:14,590 --> 00:23:11,110 early 1950s now he left some pamphlets 439 00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:14,600 like paper City Britain you know little 440 00:23:21,850 --> 00:23:18,010 booklets and one of them he called 441 00:23:25,210 --> 00:23:21,860 magnetic current magnetic current and in 442 00:23:27,670 --> 00:23:25,220 that book now remember this is a third 443 00:23:29,470 --> 00:23:27,680 fourth grade educated Latvian immigrant 444 00:23:32,080 --> 00:23:29,480 who has taught himself how to read and 445 00:23:33,550 --> 00:23:32,090 write one of the ways he taught himself 446 00:23:36,310 --> 00:23:33,560 how to read and write is he went to the 447 00:23:38,230 --> 00:23:36,320 movie theater the single movie theater 448 00:23:40,450 --> 00:23:38,240 in Homestead where they didn't even have 449 00:23:43,870 --> 00:23:40,460 sound in the early days right it was 450 00:23:46,510 --> 00:23:43,880 nice dubbed in and he would watch them 451 00:23:49,150 --> 00:23:46,520 he would watch the movies in the in the 452 00:23:55,690 --> 00:23:49,160 cooler coolness of the heat of South 453 00:23:58,450 --> 00:23:55,700 Florida and teach himself English so he 454 00:24:00,640 --> 00:23:58,460 writes these pamphlets these papers and 455 00:24:05,620 --> 00:24:00,650 he calls it magnetic current in in the 456 00:24:13,710 --> 00:24:05,630 pamphlet the paper let's call it he says 457 00:24:23,020 --> 00:24:18,900 magnets are the same they are cousins 458 00:24:26,200 --> 00:24:23,030 he says that 459 00:24:29,110 --> 00:24:26,210 either gravity is a form of magnetism or 460 00:24:33,760 --> 00:24:29,120 magnetism is a form of gravity and he 461 00:24:36,370 --> 00:24:33,770 says if you can understand how magnets 462 00:24:38,320 --> 00:24:36,380 pull on each other and then you can 463 00:24:41,260 --> 00:24:38,330 understand if you flip like the magnets 464 00:24:46,360 --> 00:24:41,270 on your refrigerator / they repel each 465 00:24:48,330 --> 00:24:46,370 other he says that is the beginning of 466 00:24:52,750 --> 00:24:48,340 the secret of how he lifted those rocks 467 00:24:54,850 --> 00:24:52,760 he says is set in a sense but he doesn't 468 00:25:00,280 --> 00:24:54,860 really say exactly but he says in 469 00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:00,290 essence that if you flip the magnetism 470 00:25:10,260 --> 00:25:05,690 like you do with magnets to gravity you 471 00:25:16,350 --> 00:25:14,320 weightless and you can last them you 472 00:25:21,970 --> 00:25:16,360 know because they were repelling now 473 00:25:28,060 --> 00:25:21,980 he's on the front porch of Einstein's 474 00:25:31,390 --> 00:25:28,070 equals mc-squared the law the Royal of 475 00:25:35,140 --> 00:25:31,400 War II Alice lighting yeah because 476 00:25:37,330 --> 00:25:35,150 there's a bending of the lights mm-hmm 477 00:25:38,740 --> 00:25:37,340 and that happens in the North Pole not 478 00:25:41,290 --> 00:25:38,750 in the South Pole and that's where the 479 00:25:43,390 --> 00:25:41,300 magnets are you know the magnet forces 480 00:25:45,820 --> 00:25:43,400 are everybody knows in North Pole and 481 00:25:48,670 --> 00:25:45,830 mint and nobody knows exactly how that 482 00:25:50,830 --> 00:25:48,680 happens but he's on the front porch of 483 00:25:52,870 --> 00:25:50,840 something when he says this and of 484 00:25:53,370 --> 00:25:52,880 course that Springs all kinds of 485 00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:53,380 theories 486 00:25:59,860 --> 00:25:55,730 none of which you've really been able to 487 00:26:04,840 --> 00:25:59,870 be explained totally or duplicated or 488 00:26:09,250 --> 00:26:04,850 replicated and that begins the feeding 489 00:26:11,490 --> 00:26:09,260 frenzy of all the Kaleidoscope of all 490 00:26:16,210 --> 00:26:11,500 the people who come to Coral Castle and 491 00:26:20,440 --> 00:26:16,220 wonder in what and here's here's the 492 00:26:22,210 --> 00:26:20,450 difference that makes Coral Castle such 493 00:26:24,910 --> 00:26:22,220 an attraction you can go to Stonehenge 494 00:26:27,660 --> 00:26:24,920 I've been there you go to the pyramids 495 00:26:30,370 --> 00:26:27,670 you can go to lots of these other places 496 00:26:32,770 --> 00:26:30,380 and there's nobody who's ever seen or 497 00:26:35,170 --> 00:26:32,780 known the people that build them because 498 00:26:36,880 --> 00:26:35,180 they died you know hundreds and 499 00:26:39,340 --> 00:26:36,890 thousands of years ago 500 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:39,350 but you go to Coral Castle and they're 501 00:26:43,870 --> 00:26:41,690 barely now but we found them 502 00:26:50,770 --> 00:26:43,880 people when we wrote the book we found 503 00:26:53,170 --> 00:26:50,780 the people who knew it you know I mean 504 00:26:55,690 --> 00:26:53,180 yes there's actually photographs that 505 00:26:57,550 --> 00:26:55,700 the guy who built the castle with the 506 00:26:59,620 --> 00:26:57,560 castle that's not true of Stonehenge or 507 00:27:02,530 --> 00:26:59,630 any of these other places for obvious 508 00:27:04,390 --> 00:27:02,540 reasons correct so this is and you can 509 00:27:07,270 --> 00:27:04,400 get your car and drive the Stonehenge I 510 00:27:08,860 --> 00:27:07,280 mean to the Coral Castle and you can't 511 00:27:12,550 --> 00:27:08,870 get in your car and drive to Stonehenge 512 00:27:15,700 --> 00:27:12,560 in the same manner did he ever express 513 00:27:22,560 --> 00:27:15,710 why he he kept this to himself I mean 514 00:27:27,780 --> 00:27:22,570 these people that knew him he was a very 515 00:27:33,600 --> 00:27:27,790 reclusive probable genius type of guy 516 00:27:38,410 --> 00:27:33,610 who had suffered a heartbreak it was 517 00:27:40,420 --> 00:27:38,420 probably disturbing like all people who 518 00:27:42,390 --> 00:27:40,430 have a heartbreak but maybe more 519 00:27:45,910 --> 00:27:42,400 disturbing because he never got over it 520 00:27:48,760 --> 00:27:45,920 he would tell people that he built the 521 00:27:50,320 --> 00:27:48,770 castle to attract his what he called 522 00:27:53,650 --> 00:27:50,330 sweet 16 523 00:27:56,980 --> 00:27:53,660 Agnes scoffs great everything he did was 524 00:27:59,310 --> 00:27:56,990 intentional he builds a slab of steps 525 00:28:03,240 --> 00:27:59,320 like I explained hmm 526 00:28:07,630 --> 00:28:03,250 May at 16 steps to him 527 00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:07,640 so he was somewhat disturbed in somewhat 528 00:28:15,490 --> 00:28:13,010 high IQ hermit genius different from the 529 00:28:18,790 --> 00:28:15,500 rest of the people and he would talk to 530 00:28:22,180 --> 00:28:18,800 them in riddles he would kindly knit in 531 00:28:25,030 --> 00:28:22,190 riddles and he went in to this day and 532 00:28:28,060 --> 00:28:25,040 the reason we wrote Coral Castle and we 533 00:28:30,820 --> 00:28:28,070 put it in our novel is because the 534 00:28:32,470 --> 00:28:30,830 mysteries unsolved we think you know I 535 00:28:34,630 --> 00:28:32,480 mean there are all kinds of people with 536 00:28:36,160 --> 00:28:34,640 all kinds of theories but none of them 537 00:28:38,500 --> 00:28:36,170 have ever gone to South Florida and 538 00:28:40,870 --> 00:28:38,510 built a castle right beside the one he 539 00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:40,880 built which is with their theory and 540 00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:43,370 practice until that happened right until 541 00:28:47,890 --> 00:28:45,770 there was no we've got to get to our 542 00:28:49,030 --> 00:28:47,900 first break here rusty yes you're 543 00:28:50,770 --> 00:28:49,040 listening to me Heidi Hollis the 544 00:28:55,990 --> 00:28:50,780 Outlander and we will be 545 00:28:57,310 --> 00:28:56,000 back welcome back everybody you're 546 00:28:59,020 --> 00:28:57,320 listening to me Heidi Hollis the 547 00:29:01,750 --> 00:28:59,030 Outlander remembering always if it's 548 00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:01,760 weird we're here we are speaking with 549 00:29:06,250 --> 00:29:03,530 rusty McClure we're talking about the 550 00:29:10,930 --> 00:29:06,260 mysterious Coral Castle right down in 551 00:29:14,050 --> 00:29:10,940 Florida just a mystery of a creation 552 00:29:15,820 --> 00:29:14,060 that it just it's mind-boggling I want 553 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:15,830 to go see it myself now you're talking 554 00:29:22,540 --> 00:29:18,170 about the guy who built this structure 555 00:29:25,090 --> 00:29:22,550 and he went on a trip he got ill he 556 00:29:27,100 --> 00:29:25,100 passed away and during the break you're 557 00:29:29,620 --> 00:29:27,110 telling me people didn't really notice 558 00:29:32,830 --> 00:29:29,630 because he was kind of a reclusive 559 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:32,840 person and they're like huh he's not 560 00:29:38,320 --> 00:29:35,570 back and they just passed away and and 561 00:29:40,960 --> 00:29:38,330 here's those mammoth of a castle sitting 562 00:29:42,850 --> 00:29:40,970 there what happened next I mean did the 563 00:29:45,730 --> 00:29:42,860 neighbors just go I'll clip the lawn I 564 00:29:51,430 --> 00:29:45,740 mean who's taking care of this thing now 565 00:29:54,700 --> 00:29:51,440 um before he died and we think he we say 566 00:29:56,260 --> 00:29:54,710 this in the book he might have started 567 00:30:00,760 --> 00:29:56,270 to get lonely and know that he was not 568 00:30:02,140 --> 00:30:00,770 well he had kidney failure he'd had a 569 00:30:05,620 --> 00:30:02,150 stroke and he had something wrong with 570 00:30:10,030 --> 00:30:05,630 his digestive system and he reached out 571 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:10,040 to his family in Latvia for the first 572 00:30:17,350 --> 00:30:15,410 time in 30 years and he had brothers he 573 00:30:20,140 --> 00:30:17,360 had no obviously no children their 574 00:30:22,330 --> 00:30:20,150 spouse and he found out that one of his 575 00:30:27,340 --> 00:30:22,340 brothers had a grandson living in 576 00:30:31,480 --> 00:30:27,350 Detroit and he will therefore the castle 577 00:30:33,930 --> 00:30:31,490 to his grandson who lived in Detroit who 578 00:30:37,690 --> 00:30:33,940 had emigrated to Detroit Michigan nice 579 00:30:41,530 --> 00:30:37,700 that son grandson didn't have any money 580 00:30:46,240 --> 00:30:41,540 and lost that couldn't keep it up lost 581 00:30:50,050 --> 00:30:46,250 it because he had they were back taxes 582 00:30:51,940 --> 00:30:50,060 which weren't very much yeah a retired 583 00:30:53,950 --> 00:30:51,950 I just saved hundreds of dollars by 584 00:30:56,170 --> 00:30:53,960 switching to Geico I feel like I'm on 585 00:30:57,490 --> 00:30:56,180 top of the world disclaimer you will not 586 00:30:58,780 --> 00:30:57,500 be transported to the top of the world 587 00:31:00,070 --> 00:30:58,790 in the unlikely event you find yourself 588 00:31:01,480 --> 00:31:00,080 the Arctic Circle seek shelter from the 589 00:31:03,250 --> 00:31:01,490 elements immediately to avoid frostbite 590 00:31:04,390 --> 00:31:03,260 and/or hypothermia Geico will not be 591 00:31:04,570 --> 00:31:04,400 responsible if you find yourself in a 592 00:31:06,279 --> 00:31:04,580 que 593 00:31:07,570 --> 00:31:06,289 for Travis will only abominable snowman 594 00:31:08,980 --> 00:31:07,580 who in all likelihood will force you to 595 00:31:11,259 --> 00:31:08,990 play games including but not limited to 596 00:31:12,549 --> 00:31:11,269 go fish charades Chinese checkers or his 597 00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:12,559 personal favorite Red Rover Red Rover 598 00:31:15,610 --> 00:31:14,330 send Yeti on over Gaga was not liable 599 00:31:17,740 --> 00:31:15,620 for any damages either physical or 600 00:31:22,840 --> 00:31:17,750 emotional Geico 15 minutes could save 601 00:31:27,130 --> 00:31:22,850 you 15% or more fuel out of Chicago had 602 00:31:31,539 --> 00:31:27,140 had moved to South Florida and he bought 603 00:31:36,220 --> 00:31:31,549 it and he was just fascinated as many of 604 00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:36,230 us are and he reinstituted what ed had 605 00:31:43,240 --> 00:31:40,370 started which was a a tour you know you 606 00:31:46,450 --> 00:31:43,250 could stop and pay at a quarter and he 607 00:31:50,049 --> 00:31:46,460 would give you a tour so he re-energized 608 00:31:53,710 --> 00:31:50,059 the the tourist part of the castle and 609 00:31:58,000 --> 00:31:53,720 he took care of it but has passed it 610 00:32:01,690 --> 00:31:58,010 since to his family members who have 611 00:32:04,930 --> 00:32:01,700 taken care of it and they like this they 612 00:32:08,680 --> 00:32:04,940 want me to respect their privacy so they 613 00:32:11,710 --> 00:32:08,690 asked me when they I met him and we've 614 00:32:15,129 --> 00:32:11,720 worked on you know doing the doing these 615 00:32:16,840 --> 00:32:15,139 stories to their to their happiness in 616 00:32:21,250 --> 00:32:16,850 their satisfaction it nothing not to 617 00:32:28,480 --> 00:32:21,260 bring them into the public eye it's a 618 00:32:32,049 --> 00:32:28,490 tourist attraction somewhere in the 619 00:32:35,220 --> 00:32:32,059 somewhere in that around 1980 it got on 620 00:32:40,060 --> 00:32:35,230 the National Historic Registry nice and 621 00:32:44,070 --> 00:32:40,070 and so they it's protected and it gets 622 00:32:46,509 --> 00:32:44,080 all the notifications and some of the 623 00:32:47,830 --> 00:32:46,519 upkeep money that National Historic 624 00:32:50,259 --> 00:32:47,840 Registry sites get 625 00:32:52,060 --> 00:32:50,269 doesn't this this choral rocket it kind 626 00:32:53,889 --> 00:32:52,070 of breaks down rather easily it's kind 627 00:32:59,259 --> 00:32:53,899 of brittle so this is it kind of 628 00:33:02,710 --> 00:32:59,269 depleting or is it is it no yeah I mean 629 00:33:04,690 --> 00:33:02,720 it's lasted thousands of centuries from 630 00:33:07,539 --> 00:33:04,700 when it was formed the bottom the ocean 631 00:33:10,090 --> 00:33:07,549 and more importantly it's lasted these 632 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:10,100 hurricanes I mean it just got hammered 633 00:33:18,250 --> 00:33:12,770 by the Hurricanes that we just had this 634 00:33:21,039 --> 00:33:18,260 year and the gift shop got all torn up 635 00:33:23,710 --> 00:33:21,049 but the castle survived again the castle 636 00:33:26,289 --> 00:33:23,720 when Hurricane Andrew as I said at the 637 00:33:28,419 --> 00:33:26,299 top of the show yeah blasted through and 638 00:33:31,299 --> 00:33:28,429 took out homestead Air Force Base even 639 00:33:40,930 --> 00:33:31,309 it didn't take out the castle three to 640 00:33:42,700 --> 00:33:40,940 four feet thick fallout shelter gosh huh 641 00:33:49,780 --> 00:33:42,710 it just it doesn't look like it would be 642 00:33:52,690 --> 00:33:49,790 comfortable to walk barefoot on I mean 643 00:33:55,539 --> 00:33:52,700 he he smoothed over a lot of the 644 00:33:57,250 --> 00:33:55,549 elements in the in the inside and we can 645 00:34:01,770 --> 00:33:57,260 talk about those elements in a minute I 646 00:34:06,640 --> 00:34:01,780 did want to point out that after he died 647 00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:06,650 and this is like the mid 50s now a whole 648 00:34:10,899 --> 00:34:08,330 bunch of people obviously start moving 649 00:34:14,680 --> 00:34:10,909 into South Florida and here sits this 650 00:34:18,580 --> 00:34:14,690 castle and the new people that move in 651 00:34:22,240 --> 00:34:18,590 here pieces of the story and of course 652 00:34:25,090 --> 00:34:22,250 they think it's a local urban legend and 653 00:34:26,260 --> 00:34:25,100 there's no no but one little guy could 654 00:34:29,680 --> 00:34:26,270 build this castle 655 00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:29,690 you know these locals don't this is 656 00:34:36,700 --> 00:34:33,050 their story but the locals start hearing 657 00:34:39,310 --> 00:34:36,710 that and there's a there's a lady lives 658 00:34:41,740 --> 00:34:39,320 in Homestead Florida and she gets fired 659 00:34:44,859 --> 00:34:41,750 up about the fact that one day not only 660 00:34:47,349 --> 00:34:44,869 ed is gonna be passed away but all of us 661 00:34:53,609 --> 00:34:47,359 will be passed away and no one will know 662 00:34:59,200 --> 00:34:53,619 this story so she gets a affidavit and 663 00:35:02,590 --> 00:34:59,210 creates in the affidavit spaces for the 664 00:35:05,349 --> 00:35:02,600 local people to identify themselves you 665 00:35:07,270 --> 00:35:05,359 know I ran the post office I was the 666 00:35:11,260 --> 00:35:07,280 third grade teacher in Homestead Florida 667 00:35:15,930 --> 00:35:11,270 for 20 years I was whatever I was and I 668 00:35:19,780 --> 00:35:15,940 knew ed Leedskalnin and Ed Leedskalnin 669 00:35:22,599 --> 00:35:19,790 worked at alone and built this castle 670 00:35:25,890 --> 00:35:22,609 all by himself and then they would sign 671 00:35:30,099 --> 00:35:25,900 the affidavit and have it have it 672 00:35:32,110 --> 00:35:30,109 notarized Wow there was space in the 673 00:35:36,340 --> 00:35:32,120 affidavit for them to add 674 00:35:38,830 --> 00:35:36,350 anything they wanted to sew 250 these 675 00:35:40,900 --> 00:35:38,840 affidavits remember the town only had 676 00:35:44,730 --> 00:35:40,910 800 people in it yeah 677 00:35:49,240 --> 00:35:44,740 filed in the Dade County Courthouse 678 00:35:52,210 --> 00:35:49,250 as you know certified documentation of 679 00:35:54,550 --> 00:35:52,220 people Homestead Florida said that Ed 680 00:35:57,750 --> 00:35:54,560 Leedskalnin worked alone built this all 681 00:36:01,620 --> 00:35:57,760 by himself never had any home help and 682 00:36:04,030 --> 00:36:01,630 they lived and knew him all this time 683 00:36:05,680 --> 00:36:04,040 that's amazing that's cool it they took 684 00:36:08,380 --> 00:36:05,690 it upon themselves to do something like 685 00:36:12,370 --> 00:36:08,390 that it you know he can't he reminds me 686 00:36:15,790 --> 00:36:12,380 of Tesla this recordings of genius that 687 00:36:18,520 --> 00:36:15,800 died alone and and yeah you know there 688 00:36:21,400 --> 00:36:18,530 was like no way to really definitively 689 00:36:23,500 --> 00:36:21,410 define what how he came about his ideas 690 00:36:26,350 --> 00:36:23,510 and what he did and exactly you know I 691 00:36:30,160 --> 00:36:26,360 have to say though you know I'm very 692 00:36:33,100 --> 00:36:30,170 much about he teach others grow the 693 00:36:35,260 --> 00:36:33,110 world's mind a bit and for him to keep 694 00:36:37,960 --> 00:36:35,270 it to themselves he knew he had cracked 695 00:36:40,810 --> 00:36:37,970 the code of something miraculous and he 696 00:36:42,430 --> 00:36:40,820 kept it to himself and it's like he 697 00:36:45,670 --> 00:36:42,440 didn't want any competition it was 698 00:36:49,150 --> 00:36:45,680 selfish I you know he was hoping to gain 699 00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:49,160 the attention of his his love but it's 700 00:36:53,680 --> 00:36:50,930 like but you could have been lightened 701 00:36:56,710 --> 00:36:53,690 the world it do you see that as a 702 00:36:59,050 --> 00:36:56,720 selfish act or just that he was a weird 703 00:37:01,740 --> 00:36:59,060 person who who just didn't get other 704 00:37:10,140 --> 00:37:05,800 he was definitely an intelligent person 705 00:37:14,110 --> 00:37:10,150 yeah so he knew what he was doing I 706 00:37:16,750 --> 00:37:14,120 think he was playing with people enjoyed 707 00:37:17,620 --> 00:37:16,760 the fact that he had this mystery as I I 708 00:37:19,960 --> 00:37:17,630 enjoyed 709 00:37:23,890 --> 00:37:19,970 that's what intrigued me the fact that 710 00:37:28,140 --> 00:37:23,900 he didn't tell anybody in he may have 711 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:28,150 very well struck upon some piece of 712 00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:31,370 futuristic or let's say maybe and we'll 713 00:37:39,820 --> 00:37:35,290 talk about that in a minute the past of 714 00:37:42,340 --> 00:37:39,830 lost understanding cuz and so he would 715 00:37:44,290 --> 00:37:42,350 tell these people this magnet tricity in 716 00:37:45,940 --> 00:37:44,300 any right disfavored he'd stopped short 717 00:37:47,829 --> 00:37:45,950 I don't think that was an accident 718 00:37:50,349 --> 00:37:47,839 he answered a question I think he did it 719 00:37:52,319 --> 00:37:50,359 on purpose he didn't want to tell people 720 00:37:55,000 --> 00:37:52,329 or he was going to tell him later and 721 00:37:58,060 --> 00:37:55,010 the grim reaper got him before he could 722 00:37:58,960 --> 00:37:58,070 tell but he knew he was sick he knew he 723 00:38:02,200 --> 00:37:58,970 was sick 724 00:38:06,160 --> 00:38:02,210 now he also told people that he had 725 00:38:12,069 --> 00:38:06,170 learned the and discovered the secrets 726 00:38:15,690 --> 00:38:12,079 it helped the Egyptians build the 727 00:38:18,250 --> 00:38:15,700 pyramids right so on the north wall 728 00:38:24,000 --> 00:38:18,260 which is the far wall the beginning of 729 00:38:29,109 --> 00:38:24,010 the of the entire castle he replicates 730 00:38:33,310 --> 00:38:29,119 it's a Tyus part he replicates the 731 00:38:40,210 --> 00:38:33,320 King's Chamber of the Great Pyramid come 732 00:38:43,980 --> 00:38:40,220 on yes Wow and so he has the same 733 00:38:48,790 --> 00:38:43,990 elements and they are the heaviest parts 734 00:38:51,520 --> 00:38:48,800 of the entire castle of the great of the 735 00:38:54,910 --> 00:38:51,530 Great Pyramid the King's Chamber the 736 00:38:56,890 --> 00:38:54,920 Great Pyramid is he living in I'm 737 00:39:00,069 --> 00:38:56,900 curious but how much how many square 738 00:39:01,990 --> 00:39:00,079 feet is that I don't know and that's a 739 00:39:03,579 --> 00:39:02,000 good question I just it's it's pretty 740 00:39:06,040 --> 00:39:03,589 big it's I mean okay 741 00:39:08,559 --> 00:39:06,050 it's pretty it's pretty I mean there's 742 00:39:11,020 --> 00:39:08,569 two answers to that question I guess one 743 00:39:13,770 --> 00:39:11,030 is his living unit which I described as 744 00:39:18,309 --> 00:39:13,780 Q story and I would say there's or maybe 745 00:39:20,890 --> 00:39:18,319 808 800 square feet at most maybe 750 746 00:39:23,589 --> 00:39:20,900 something like that yeah on top one on 747 00:39:25,630 --> 00:39:23,599 top of another so there's no more 1500 748 00:39:28,359 --> 00:39:25,640 square feet and they're stacked because 749 00:39:31,210 --> 00:39:28,369 they're two storey now the castle itself 750 00:39:34,630 --> 00:39:31,220 well the castle ourselves very large for 751 00:39:36,730 --> 00:39:34,640 compare in comparison and so at the back 752 00:39:38,730 --> 00:39:36,740 end he's got these and they are they are 753 00:39:41,950 --> 00:39:38,740 the heaviest elements of the entire 754 00:39:44,050 --> 00:39:41,960 castle which is kind of like saying look 755 00:39:48,730 --> 00:39:44,060 at me not only tell you that I 756 00:39:50,530 --> 00:39:48,740 discovered the secrets of this pyramid 757 00:39:53,200 --> 00:39:50,540 but I put the obvious element at the 758 00:39:55,990 --> 00:39:53,210 highest part how did I get it up there 759 00:39:59,350 --> 00:39:56,000 how did I get it up there and look at it 760 00:40:01,660 --> 00:39:59,360 and then go look at the King's tomb 761 00:40:07,770 --> 00:40:01,670 of the Great Pyramid and you will see 762 00:40:10,270 --> 00:40:07,780 exactly the same shape and then he dies 763 00:40:11,920 --> 00:40:10,280 I'm not gonna tell you anymore and now 764 00:40:13,960 --> 00:40:11,930 I'm dead and now now you're gonna have 765 00:40:15,370 --> 00:40:13,970 to live with this and try to figure it 766 00:40:17,440 --> 00:40:15,380 out for yourself I don't know what he 767 00:40:17,920 --> 00:40:17,450 was telling us I mean that's the mystery 768 00:40:21,130 --> 00:40:17,930 of it 769 00:40:25,810 --> 00:40:21,140 we can't go ask him I don't know I don't 770 00:40:28,660 --> 00:40:25,820 I don't know so that opens the door to 771 00:40:31,600 --> 00:40:28,670 all the theories and people are 772 00:40:34,150 --> 00:40:31,610 passionate about your theories by bad 773 00:40:36,130 --> 00:40:34,160 and people get disappointed because we 774 00:40:39,210 --> 00:40:36,140 wrote this what I would say a 775 00:40:42,940 --> 00:40:39,220 journalistic view of the of the of the 776 00:40:45,970 --> 00:40:42,950 castle and Edie and we talked about some 777 00:40:47,980 --> 00:40:45,980 of those theories and we are slightly 778 00:40:50,770 --> 00:40:47,990 dismissive maybe slightly more than 779 00:40:53,860 --> 00:40:50,780 dismissive of this series but we never 780 00:40:55,750 --> 00:40:53,870 say that any of the theories have worked 781 00:40:57,820 --> 00:40:55,760 and we do not have any of our own 782 00:40:59,920 --> 00:40:57,830 theories Jack Efrain and I do not have 783 00:41:03,010 --> 00:40:59,930 any of our own theories about this 784 00:41:04,660 --> 00:41:03,020 castle because we don't we didn't write 785 00:41:06,310 --> 00:41:04,670 we didn't set out to do it so every once 786 00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:06,320 in a while people get disappointed in us 787 00:41:11,500 --> 00:41:09,050 because we were at the mystery of Coral 788 00:41:13,930 --> 00:41:11,510 Castle but we didn't write to it solving 789 00:41:16,060 --> 00:41:13,940 of the mystery but we didn't have is 790 00:41:18,850 --> 00:41:16,070 there anything between the stones to 791 00:41:21,730 --> 00:41:18,860 help connect them any kind of material 792 00:41:25,270 --> 00:41:21,740 no II just I mean there's a little bit 793 00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:25,280 of stuff growing in him but he's got him 794 00:41:30,700 --> 00:41:27,650 jammed right up perfectly on top of each 795 00:41:33,700 --> 00:41:30,710 other which is another I mean they're on 796 00:41:36,550 --> 00:41:33,710 their own and what what makes this so 797 00:41:38,350 --> 00:41:36,560 incredible is and we got to talk about 798 00:41:42,240 --> 00:41:38,360 these these things are straight up and 799 00:41:44,980 --> 00:41:42,250 down yeah I mean they are aimed and hung 800 00:41:48,040 --> 00:41:44,990 perfectly so let's talk about two of the 801 00:41:51,070 --> 00:41:48,050 elements that are doing worse now can 802 00:41:55,390 --> 00:41:51,080 you learn more doors and one of them is 803 00:41:59,440 --> 00:41:55,400 five thousand pounds huh it's a swinging 804 00:42:04,510 --> 00:41:59,450 wall it is five thousand pounds and it 805 00:42:06,310 --> 00:42:04,520 is perfectly balanced for forty years so 806 00:42:09,100 --> 00:42:06,320 let's say thirty five forty years it is 807 00:42:12,280 --> 00:42:09,110 perfectly balanced so there's a young 808 00:42:13,109 --> 00:42:12,290 kid twelve year old kid could put their 809 00:42:18,989 --> 00:42:13,119 hand on it 810 00:42:23,430 --> 00:42:18,999 turn this 5000 dot door at Walden and it 811 00:42:24,559 --> 00:42:23,440 turns into a door it pivots oh wow he's 812 00:42:31,609 --> 00:42:24,569 long dead 813 00:42:35,880 --> 00:42:31,619 it's decades ago that collapses that 814 00:42:37,859 --> 00:42:35,890 door collapses it's on the National 815 00:42:41,910 --> 00:42:37,869 Historic Registry the ownership of a 816 00:42:45,720 --> 00:42:41,920 place Coral Castle get a hold of the 817 00:42:48,690 --> 00:42:45,730 University of Florida engineering 818 00:42:55,049 --> 00:42:48,700 department they bring people down to 819 00:43:03,529 --> 00:42:55,059 look at it and underneath this 5,000 820 00:43:10,620 --> 00:43:03,539 pounds slab is a Ford Model A truck axle 821 00:43:13,170 --> 00:43:10,630 he said it perfectly on this axle and in 822 00:43:16,470 --> 00:43:13,180 the Florida Sun and under that weight 823 00:43:19,529 --> 00:43:16,480 thirty years later it rusted and that's 824 00:43:23,670 --> 00:43:19,539 why it collapsed oh wow so what they do 825 00:43:25,440 --> 00:43:23,680 is they pick up with a huge crane and 826 00:43:27,299 --> 00:43:25,450 lift this thing straight up in the air 827 00:43:30,599 --> 00:43:27,309 it takes six or seven people in a crane 828 00:43:34,499 --> 00:43:30,609 and that's what they find and they find 829 00:43:40,819 --> 00:43:34,509 that he has drilled a perfect hole up 830 00:43:44,130 --> 00:43:40,829 through this five thousand pound slab 831 00:43:46,910 --> 00:43:44,140 they look at it say the only way first 832 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:46,920 of all he found the geographic center of 833 00:43:51,720 --> 00:43:50,170 this slab the perfect geographic center 834 00:43:53,370 --> 00:43:51,730 or otherwise it wouldn't a hung 835 00:43:55,710 --> 00:43:53,380 perfectly and it wouldn't a pivot it 836 00:43:58,380 --> 00:43:55,720 perfectly and he drills a hole up 837 00:44:00,839 --> 00:43:58,390 through the middle of it we would so he 838 00:44:02,039 --> 00:44:00,849 can balance it and these guys look at it 839 00:44:03,180 --> 00:44:02,049 and said the only way you could drill 840 00:44:04,829 --> 00:44:03,190 this hole that straight and that 841 00:44:07,799 --> 00:44:04,839 perfectly is you'd have to have a laser 842 00:44:09,660 --> 00:44:07,809 beam oh he didn't hit he did not have a 843 00:44:13,319 --> 00:44:09,670 laser because there was no such thing in 844 00:44:16,019 --> 00:44:13,329 the 1920s and 30s she said really they 845 00:44:19,910 --> 00:44:16,029 don't that is wow that's the best that 846 00:44:22,829 --> 00:44:19,920 they could come up that's right so now 847 00:44:24,390 --> 00:44:22,839 there are these guys do these 848 00:44:26,489 --> 00:44:24,400 engineering guys and they go wait a 849 00:44:27,089 --> 00:44:26,499 minute you've been and you may be a 850 00:44:29,549 --> 00:44:27,099 participant 851 00:44:33,930 --> 00:44:29,559 talking about how brittle and hardness 852 00:44:36,719 --> 00:44:33,940 rock is so it's so this 5,000 pound door 853 00:44:38,670 --> 00:44:36,729 has been swinging on this axis you know 854 00:44:41,339 --> 00:44:38,680 what a pastor was of course right you 855 00:44:44,430 --> 00:44:41,349 know what a pestle so if this thing 856 00:44:49,019 --> 00:44:44,440 would be spinning around it would be 857 00:44:51,660 --> 00:44:49,029 turning the rock underneath it into sand 858 00:44:53,489 --> 00:44:51,670 and gravel very quickly correct yeah 859 00:44:55,979 --> 00:44:53,499 it'd be like a pestle would be grinding 860 00:44:58,559 --> 00:44:55,989 up grinding its way so they have and 861 00:45:00,120 --> 00:44:58,569 they've gone now we got this up how come 862 00:45:03,569 --> 00:45:00,130 there's not a pile of sand underneath 863 00:45:07,200 --> 00:45:03,579 where this 5,000 pound door was swinging 864 00:45:08,999 --> 00:45:07,210 back you know Pibb and so there's a 865 00:45:15,469 --> 00:45:09,009 piece of rock and I've held it my hand 866 00:45:19,680 --> 00:45:15,479 that might be 12 14 inches long might be 867 00:45:23,549 --> 00:45:19,690 seven six inches wide and it's not very 868 00:45:28,109 --> 00:45:23,559 thick mm-hmm it's thick at most and 869 00:45:32,430 --> 00:45:28,119 that's what this 5,000 pound door has 870 00:45:34,589 --> 00:45:32,440 been spinning on they send it off to the 871 00:45:37,380 --> 00:45:34,599 University of Florida their colleagues 872 00:45:43,319 --> 00:45:37,390 in the geology department there for a 873 00:45:48,079 --> 00:45:43,329 couple weeks they send it back material 874 00:45:52,140 --> 00:45:48,089 not of this planet oh really 875 00:45:54,660 --> 00:45:52,150 in other words he either had it with him 876 00:45:58,559 --> 00:45:54,670 or he went out in South Florida and he 877 00:46:01,140 --> 00:45:58,569 found this piece of rock that is not 878 00:46:03,690 --> 00:46:01,150 elements of this planet but how would he 879 00:46:07,140 --> 00:46:03,700 know that would hold up he had to know 880 00:46:10,349 --> 00:46:07,150 something special was with that piece he 881 00:46:12,450 --> 00:46:10,359 had the title of our book has the word 882 00:46:16,200 --> 00:46:12,460 mystery right at the top of it 883 00:46:18,989 --> 00:46:16,210 the mystery of it I know these are this 884 00:46:22,829 --> 00:46:18,999 this is just like how how did I know 885 00:46:26,839 --> 00:46:22,839 that you know where did this one hold it 886 00:46:30,239 --> 00:46:26,849 so that brings up the discussion then of 887 00:46:33,900 --> 00:46:30,249 was he having alien contact did he learn 888 00:46:36,630 --> 00:46:33,910 this from some other type of entity you 889 00:46:39,870 --> 00:46:36,640 know then you know he knows I have met 890 00:46:40,529 --> 00:46:39,880 several geniuses who have invented 891 00:46:44,160 --> 00:46:40,539 things 892 00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:44,170 beyond the scope of what is normal and 893 00:46:50,529 --> 00:46:47,599 they all said something that was that 894 00:46:54,370 --> 00:46:50,539 was a similar thought they would wake up 895 00:46:56,559 --> 00:46:54,380 with these ideas and then help it come 896 00:47:01,750 --> 00:46:56,569 to life and one in particular who had 897 00:47:03,339 --> 00:47:01,760 created a anti-gravity like motor that 898 00:47:07,329 --> 00:47:03,349 the government's just weren't interested 899 00:47:09,579 --> 00:47:07,339 and he said I believe something is 900 00:47:10,000 --> 00:47:09,589 implanting it in my mind when I sleep at 901 00:47:11,710 --> 00:47:10,010 night 902 00:47:13,029 --> 00:47:11,720 to know what to do cuz I wake up with 903 00:47:16,450 --> 00:47:13,039 the answers and I just know what will 904 00:47:18,609 --> 00:47:16,460 work and and he does it and I'm like 905 00:47:21,069 --> 00:47:18,619 well you know it makes you wonder you 906 00:47:23,650 --> 00:47:21,079 know what are we open to when we go to 907 00:47:25,269 --> 00:47:23,660 bed at night and you know and some of 908 00:47:26,920 --> 00:47:25,279 these ideas that get dropped in our 909 00:47:29,140 --> 00:47:26,930 minds you know it's it's quite 910 00:47:31,390 --> 00:47:29,150 fascinating that you know there's just 911 00:47:33,670 --> 00:47:31,400 those geniuses that are part of a 912 00:47:35,890 --> 00:47:33,680 generation that know certain things that 913 00:47:38,079 --> 00:47:35,900 know how to pull something together than 914 00:47:41,289 --> 00:47:38,089 the next person doesn't and could never 915 00:47:43,960 --> 00:47:41,299 solve I mean it's it's quite fascinating 916 00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:43,970 this this guy was was the Tesla of a 917 00:47:48,730 --> 00:47:46,250 sort he really was he was um we we have 918 00:47:51,130 --> 00:47:48,740 a picture of Tesla in our book I mean we 919 00:47:54,279 --> 00:47:51,140 talk about that so you're at your your 920 00:47:56,200 --> 00:47:54,289 spot on and think about this if you ever 921 00:47:58,720 --> 00:47:56,210 of course you have tried to hang like a 922 00:48:00,730 --> 00:47:58,730 mirror or a painting and you in 923 00:48:02,769 --> 00:48:00,740 somebody's standing back while you're 924 00:48:05,140 --> 00:48:02,779 holding it and you're trying to make it 925 00:48:06,640 --> 00:48:05,150 right yes and how hard would that how 926 00:48:09,549 --> 00:48:06,650 hard all of a sudden it gets really 927 00:48:12,099 --> 00:48:09,559 heavy right and you can tell them very 928 00:48:14,950 --> 00:48:12,109 quickly you start saying to him you know 929 00:48:18,400 --> 00:48:14,960 you know make a decision well who was 930 00:48:21,579 --> 00:48:18,410 holding this thing up exactly right when 931 00:48:23,319 --> 00:48:21,589 it was 5,000 pounds I mean the these 932 00:48:25,269 --> 00:48:23,329 engineers that have looked at just said 933 00:48:28,380 --> 00:48:25,279 the only way that thing could spin and 934 00:48:32,309 --> 00:48:28,390 turned that easily is it had to be 935 00:48:37,390 --> 00:48:32,319 absolutely geographically 936 00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:37,400 gravitationally centered it's it's crazy 937 00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:40,089 it's like he found a Star Trek tricorder 938 00:48:45,010 --> 00:48:42,890 that one of the crew left behind any 939 00:48:47,829 --> 00:48:45,020 goes why don't I work this thing and and 940 00:48:49,930 --> 00:48:47,839 he just went buck wild with it right 941 00:48:53,079 --> 00:48:49,940 let's talk about another one there's an 942 00:48:54,900 --> 00:48:53,089 obelisk okay okay there's an obelisk in 943 00:49:00,700 --> 00:48:54,910 the castle 944 00:49:04,530 --> 00:49:00,710 the solderless is 30 40 tons goes 945 00:49:09,670 --> 00:49:04,540 straight up in the air like 40 feet and 946 00:49:14,230 --> 00:49:09,680 then he's drilled a circle in this 947 00:49:18,340 --> 00:49:14,240 granite obelisk at the top 948 00:49:21,850 --> 00:49:18,350 he's got a perfect round circle drilled 949 00:49:25,570 --> 00:49:21,860 in it in in between in every the the 950 00:49:27,940 --> 00:49:25,580 things he tools he has or stuff that he 951 00:49:31,690 --> 00:49:27,950 built out of the junkyard he's got like 952 00:49:36,100 --> 00:49:31,700 two coat hangers ones vertical one 953 00:49:44,950 --> 00:49:36,110 horizontal implanted in notched way up 954 00:49:47,670 --> 00:49:44,960 in this obelisk and what happens is it 955 00:49:50,220 --> 00:49:47,680 is lined up now remember you got a 956 00:49:53,620 --> 00:49:50,230 40-foot opera's obelisk 957 00:49:59,680 --> 00:49:53,630 it weighs 32 tons and he's lined it 958 00:50:00,640 --> 00:49:59,690 perfectly to the North Star oh wow oh 959 00:50:02,710 --> 00:50:00,650 that's interesting 960 00:50:07,180 --> 00:50:02,720 he's lined it perfectly to the North 961 00:50:11,610 --> 00:50:07,190 Star and he now this crosshairs comes 962 00:50:15,340 --> 00:50:11,620 down to a piece of metal in battle 963 00:50:19,660 --> 00:50:15,350 embedded in one of the coral rock walls 964 00:50:23,500 --> 00:50:19,670 inside the castle so now you look 965 00:50:26,740 --> 00:50:23,510 straight up through where the notches of 966 00:50:33,870 --> 00:50:26,750 this metal piece up to the crosshairs 967 00:50:37,210 --> 00:50:33,880 and every season the North Star moves 968 00:50:39,570 --> 00:50:37,220 from one quadrant to the next quadrant 969 00:50:44,230 --> 00:50:39,580 to the next quadrant and then repeats 970 00:50:46,180 --> 00:50:44,240 Wow and it's part of me now 971 00:50:48,190 --> 00:50:46,190 how does he get that thing up in the air 972 00:50:50,470 --> 00:50:48,200 and how does the aim it write it and how 973 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:50,480 does he know to do it exactly so that 974 00:50:57,400 --> 00:50:55,490 you know the North Star moves inside 975 00:51:00,340 --> 00:50:57,410 these quadrants as the seasons change 976 00:51:04,930 --> 00:51:00,350 four seasons four quadrants and every 977 00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:04,940 every 90 days you have a you have a 978 00:51:09,450 --> 00:51:07,010 change of season and you have a change 979 00:51:13,000 --> 00:51:09,460 of quadrants of the north 980 00:51:15,400 --> 00:51:13,010 is fascinating 981 00:51:20,250 --> 00:51:15,410 how's he know to do that he was a little 982 00:51:25,950 --> 00:51:22,750 see now you're into theories and I have 983 00:51:29,050 --> 00:51:25,960 all I know yeah new stuff you don't know 984 00:51:31,030 --> 00:51:29,060 somebody someone mentioned here in the 985 00:51:36,460 --> 00:51:31,040 chat room if there's an obelisk then 986 00:51:38,470 --> 00:51:36,470 there may be a statue of Isis nearby all 987 00:51:39,670 --> 00:51:38,480 right well then let's just move on 988 00:51:41,110 --> 00:51:39,680 because we're gonna run out of time 989 00:51:50,920 --> 00:51:41,120 there's so many neat things to talk 990 00:51:55,840 --> 00:51:50,930 about he also has invented a solar clock 991 00:52:00,700 --> 00:51:55,850 calendar huh and you know you picture a 992 00:52:04,540 --> 00:52:00,710 solar clock right a solar yes it's 993 00:52:08,890 --> 00:52:04,550 that's not it he creates a entirely 994 00:52:13,330 --> 00:52:08,900 different one that he edges into the 995 00:52:17,140 --> 00:52:13,340 stone and it changes with the seasons 996 00:52:20,410 --> 00:52:17,150 and it is totally different it's a 997 00:52:25,570 --> 00:52:20,420 one-of-a-kind and he's lined it up from 998 00:52:28,480 --> 00:52:25,580 the Sun and it works and tells time it 999 00:52:32,850 --> 00:52:28,490 works Intel's time wow it works Intel's 1000 00:52:35,410 --> 00:52:32,860 time and it's it tells time differently 1001 00:52:39,030 --> 00:52:35,420 the way it works it tells time 1002 00:52:43,780 --> 00:52:39,040 differently every season every day it is 1003 00:52:49,270 --> 00:52:43,790 adjusting for the seasons at that 1004 00:52:51,190 --> 00:52:49,280 latitude goodness and it's it's not what 1005 00:52:53,740 --> 00:52:51,200 you think it's not a it's not a solar 1006 00:52:58,540 --> 00:52:53,750 clock like you see in gardens all over 1007 00:53:03,010 --> 00:52:58,550 the world he has invented his own solar 1008 00:53:05,470 --> 00:53:03,020 clock has that been attempted to be 1009 00:53:07,120 --> 00:53:05,480 replicated well I think you could but I 1010 00:53:10,690 --> 00:53:07,130 don't know how you I don't know how to 1011 00:53:12,610 --> 00:53:10,700 do it I'm I'm not that guy if it has 1012 00:53:14,080 --> 00:53:12,620 been I don't know about it but I 1013 00:53:16,030 --> 00:53:14,090 wouldn't be surprised if somebody tried 1014 00:53:20,170 --> 00:53:16,040 to do that but how did he do it how did 1015 00:53:22,089 --> 00:53:20,180 he know to put this this rock and carve 1016 00:53:27,039 --> 00:53:22,099 it just right in its aim 1017 00:53:31,359 --> 00:53:27,049 perfectly the Sun and it tells time you 1018 00:53:33,700 --> 00:53:31,369 can yeah docent a ghost it doesn't take 1019 00:53:35,769 --> 00:53:33,710 you out there middle the courtyard of 1020 00:53:38,049 --> 00:53:35,779 this castle and they show you and you 1021 00:53:40,269 --> 00:53:38,059 can read it and tomorrow it'll be a 1022 00:53:42,849 --> 00:53:40,279 little bit different but it's going to 1023 00:53:45,729 --> 00:53:42,859 adjust it's a piece of stone and it's 1024 00:53:49,690 --> 00:53:45,739 but the way it's designed it's going to 1025 00:53:54,910 --> 00:53:49,700 adjust seasonally and still be able to 1026 00:53:55,779 --> 00:53:54,920 tell time every day accurate an hour of 1027 00:53:58,299 --> 00:53:55,789 every day 1028 00:54:00,400 --> 00:53:58,309 that's amazing part it's like there's so 1029 00:54:04,210 --> 00:54:00,410 many different elements to this guy that 1030 00:54:08,529 --> 00:54:04,220 it's just not he was good at at lifting 1031 00:54:12,039 --> 00:54:08,539 up something place he's doing so many 1032 00:54:17,109 --> 00:54:12,049 different things that generator 1033 00:54:24,339 --> 00:54:17,119 I mean he's ahead of his time he's a 1034 00:54:25,960 --> 00:54:24,349 genius of another time to next break you 1035 00:54:29,819 --> 00:54:25,970 guys need to me Heidi Hollis the 1036 00:54:34,120 --> 00:54:32,109 welcome back everybody you're listening 1037 00:54:35,620 --> 00:54:34,130 to me Heidi how's the Outlander and we 1038 00:54:37,930 --> 00:54:35,630 were speaking about the Coral Castle 1039 00:54:39,849 --> 00:54:37,940 with rusty McClure rusty what's your 1040 00:54:42,989 --> 00:54:39,859 website really quick so the listeners 1041 00:54:47,349 --> 00:54:42,999 can check it out before we continue here 1042 00:54:49,989 --> 00:54:47,359 Coral Castle book.com awesome very cool 1043 00:54:53,140 --> 00:54:49,999 you know we're chatting during the break 1044 00:54:54,819 --> 00:54:53,150 and there's so much to cover yet and I 1045 00:54:57,700 --> 00:54:54,829 just want you to dive right in where 1046 00:55:00,400 --> 00:54:57,710 we're talking about it was curious if he 1047 00:55:02,049 --> 00:55:00,410 left any information to say this is my 1048 00:55:04,299 --> 00:55:02,059 favorite part of the castle or this or 1049 00:55:06,549 --> 00:55:04,309 that but you said no but there's special 1050 00:55:08,200 --> 00:55:06,559 designated areas in the castle for 1051 00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:08,210 certain things so go ahead and tell her 1052 00:55:12,579 --> 00:55:10,130 listeners what you were just talking 1053 00:55:16,989 --> 00:55:12,589 about yeah he didn't leave notes as 1054 00:55:19,809 --> 00:55:16,999 Heidi was asking me but he left he gave 1055 00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:19,819 tours and the people of Homestead would 1056 00:55:23,620 --> 00:55:21,650 come and see it and when people came to 1057 00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:23,630 visit him they would all want to go out 1058 00:55:29,140 --> 00:55:26,569 and take the tour of Homestead you know 1059 00:55:32,739 --> 00:55:29,150 Coral Castle so they met add and Ed 1060 00:55:36,010 --> 00:55:32,749 would tell them about these elements so 1061 00:55:37,930 --> 00:55:36,020 he once again was trying to 1062 00:55:39,940 --> 00:55:37,940 cracked egg no scuffs that comes from 1063 00:55:44,250 --> 00:55:39,950 Latvian marry him and have children and 1064 00:55:45,910 --> 00:55:44,260 so he built a whole wing for he built a 1065 00:55:50,910 --> 00:55:45,920 bedroom 1066 00:55:52,840 --> 00:55:50,920 he built actually stone beds and stone 1067 00:55:56,080 --> 00:55:52,850 tables 1068 00:55:58,300 --> 00:55:56,090 he built a punishment area for children 1069 00:56:01,930 --> 00:55:58,310 and that I would have been enough to 1070 00:56:05,050 --> 00:56:01,940 scare and and so yet he would explain 1071 00:56:10,060 --> 00:56:05,060 this in a dungeon is basically a timeout 1072 00:56:13,120 --> 00:56:10,070 dungeon discipline the kids to 1073 00:56:15,070 --> 00:56:13,130 discipline the kids in a in a let's call 1074 00:56:17,500 --> 00:56:15,080 it a medieval you know a lot of the 1075 00:56:20,370 --> 00:56:17,510 pieces insider kind of medieval looking 1076 00:56:24,790 --> 00:56:20,380 and so I mean he also built a bathtub 1077 00:56:28,620 --> 00:56:24,800 hmm and he took baths there people of 1078 00:56:32,710 --> 00:56:28,630 the time marveled that he was able to 1079 00:56:37,810 --> 00:56:32,720 find fresh water and he carved his way 1080 00:56:40,740 --> 00:56:37,820 down to a well step stones down to fresh 1081 00:56:43,780 --> 00:56:40,750 water and he used it that well as a 1082 00:56:46,600 --> 00:56:43,790 refrigerator for his vegetables in this 1083 00:56:48,610 --> 00:56:46,610 vegetable garden and oh and so and 1084 00:56:51,100 --> 00:56:48,620 people go how the heck did he find water 1085 00:56:53,110 --> 00:56:51,110 when we can't find water yeah right in 1086 00:56:55,510 --> 00:56:53,120 the middle of the well so he so people 1087 00:57:01,690 --> 00:56:55,520 thought that was cool the bath tub was 1088 00:57:04,090 --> 00:57:01,700 cool he had a very large table that he 1089 00:57:08,320 --> 00:57:04,100 built in the and carved in the shape of 1090 00:57:12,940 --> 00:57:08,330 the state of Florida that was complete 1091 00:57:15,570 --> 00:57:12,950 with a carved lake okeechobee in the 1092 00:57:18,850 --> 00:57:15,580 middle right where it belongs and he 1093 00:57:20,500 --> 00:57:18,860 pasted it in some concrete so that it 1094 00:57:23,890 --> 00:57:20,510 would hold water and to this day it 1095 00:57:28,120 --> 00:57:23,900 holds water then Evol a table to have 1096 00:57:30,190 --> 00:57:28,130 dinner with his agnes scoffs of course 1097 00:57:31,030 --> 00:57:30,200 she never came and he put it in the 1098 00:57:34,900 --> 00:57:31,040 shape of a heart 1099 00:57:39,100 --> 00:57:34,910 he carved a big heart table with 1100 00:57:45,430 --> 00:57:39,110 completely with chairs and Ripley's 1101 00:57:49,850 --> 00:57:45,440 Believe It or Not and they they call it 1102 00:57:52,160 --> 00:57:49,860 the largest Valentine 1103 00:57:54,230 --> 00:57:52,170 ever made because it's for five thousand 1104 00:57:56,060 --> 00:57:54,240 pounds so they I mean he and these were 1105 00:57:58,160 --> 00:57:56,070 places that he would go and show people 1106 00:58:01,010 --> 00:57:58,170 so you asked me if did he leave a 1107 00:58:05,090 --> 00:58:01,020 documentation of yeah yes in a sense it 1108 00:58:08,810 --> 00:58:05,100 was an oral war of these places and the 1109 00:58:11,870 --> 00:58:08,820 stories that he would tell them he 1110 00:58:14,000 --> 00:58:11,880 carved chairs that you can go and 1111 00:58:17,180 --> 00:58:14,010 recline and that he would read in he 1112 00:58:19,550 --> 00:58:17,190 would bring he would go up to date 1113 00:58:20,990 --> 00:58:19,560 County live or Miami library and he 1114 00:58:23,150 --> 00:58:21,000 check out books and a lot of more 1115 00:58:27,350 --> 00:58:23,160 scientific books and he had these chairs 1116 00:58:29,860 --> 00:58:27,360 that that were facing different parts of 1117 00:58:32,600 --> 00:58:29,870 where the Sun would then come over his 1118 00:58:34,940 --> 00:58:32,610 reclining chairs would come over his 1119 00:58:36,770 --> 00:58:34,950 shoulders so he could fly and read and 1120 00:58:39,050 --> 00:58:36,780 you can lie in these chairs and you 1121 00:58:42,620 --> 00:58:39,060 don't think you're on a rock chair at 1122 00:58:43,970 --> 00:58:42,630 all it's there they're contoured to feel 1123 00:58:46,010 --> 00:58:43,980 like they are soft 1124 00:58:48,260 --> 00:58:46,020 I was wondering because I I see a 1125 00:58:51,250 --> 00:58:48,270 picture of him sitting on it and and 1126 00:58:58,490 --> 00:58:51,260 others sitting on it and I'm like upset 1127 00:59:01,210 --> 00:58:58,500 but I've sat in I've said reclined in 1128 00:59:04,700 --> 00:59:01,220 him and they are just contoured they're 1129 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:04,710 absolutely comfortable and feel almost 1130 00:59:09,590 --> 00:59:06,810 soft they're so well designed 1131 00:59:11,570 --> 00:59:09,600 that's an Easter well rounded so there's 1132 00:59:13,910 --> 00:59:11,580 all these little pieces and he would 1133 00:59:16,760 --> 00:59:13,920 tell everybody about him and he would 1134 00:59:18,470 --> 00:59:16,770 tell him why they were there and and he 1135 00:59:22,100 --> 00:59:18,480 would tell people we take his bath in 1136 00:59:27,350 --> 00:59:22,110 the bathtub that he carved I mean he and 1137 00:59:30,080 --> 00:59:27,360 so no there's no real notation of it but 1138 00:59:33,440 --> 00:59:30,090 we did all our research and we found all 1139 00:59:36,680 --> 00:59:33,450 these pictures actually we found a vault 1140 00:59:40,040 --> 00:59:36,690 in in a bank and there were pictures 1141 00:59:41,960 --> 00:59:40,050 that nobody had ever seen before and and 1142 00:59:43,670 --> 00:59:41,970 so we asked him if we could use him in 1143 00:59:46,810 --> 00:59:43,680 our book and we used them and then all 1144 00:59:50,180 --> 00:59:46,820 we had to do was just tell people that 1145 00:59:53,180 --> 00:59:50,190 that the bank had provided them because 1146 00:59:55,060 --> 00:59:53,190 they were know the guys we'd heard as we 1147 00:59:57,890 --> 00:59:55,070 did our research that there was some 1148 01:00:00,170 --> 00:59:57,900 people who had pictures they'd never 1149 01:00:03,790 --> 01:00:00,180 seen before and so some of the actual 1150 01:00:05,650 --> 01:00:03,800 owners of the of the castle had 1151 01:00:09,250 --> 01:00:05,660 got to see some pictures that they had 1152 01:00:11,200 --> 01:00:09,260 never seen before the person at the 1153 01:00:14,890 --> 01:00:11,210 First National Bank of South Florida did 1154 01:00:17,050 --> 01:00:14,900 that now in these pictures we got to 1155 01:00:19,780 --> 01:00:17,060 talk about the black box forerunners yes 1156 01:00:20,859 --> 01:00:19,790 yeah I want to hear about the black box 1157 01:00:24,640 --> 01:00:20,869 it's a mystery 1158 01:00:26,620 --> 01:00:24,650 alright so how did he left these rocks 1159 01:00:29,230 --> 01:00:26,630 I'm not going to tell you how he lifted 1160 01:00:30,970 --> 01:00:29,240 them because I don't know and lots of 1161 01:00:33,359 --> 01:00:30,980 people have theories but what we have 1162 01:00:39,870 --> 01:00:33,369 and there in the book there are pictures 1163 01:00:46,450 --> 01:00:39,880 he had three pieces big long pieces of 1164 01:00:49,180 --> 01:00:46,460 Florida pine that he made large tripods 1165 01:00:51,850 --> 01:00:49,190 out of think telephone poles I mean he 1166 01:00:56,760 --> 01:00:51,860 would get these big pieces of Florida 1167 01:01:02,440 --> 01:00:56,770 pine and he would make rounded tripods 1168 01:01:08,950 --> 01:01:02,450 he had blocked tackle and chains and in 1169 01:01:13,570 --> 01:01:08,960 these pictures at the top of the 30 40 1170 01:01:16,810 --> 01:01:13,580 foot high tripod it's that really don't 1171 01:01:21,970 --> 01:01:16,820 look like they could hold all this 1172 01:01:25,210 --> 01:01:21,980 weight of these elements I'm a robot 1173 01:01:27,670 --> 01:01:25,220 vacuum cleaner so yeah I got one gig I 1174 01:01:30,460 --> 01:01:27,680 suck up dirt so pardon my inferiority 1175 01:01:32,380 --> 01:01:30,470 complex about guy coat who does so much 1176 01:01:34,150 --> 01:01:32,390 more like not only could they save their 1177 01:01:35,920 --> 01:01:34,160 customers money on car insurance but 1178 01:01:38,410 --> 01:01:35,930 they got fast and friendly claim service 1179 01:01:41,320 --> 01:01:38,420 too and an award-winning mobile app plus 1180 01:01:43,630 --> 01:01:41,330 access to licensed agents 24/7 Who am I 1181 01:01:46,529 --> 01:01:43,640 kidding I can't even do corners Oh Oh 1182 01:01:49,150 --> 01:01:46,539 choking hazard 1183 01:01:55,029 --> 01:01:49,160 Geico expect great savings and a whole 1184 01:02:00,309 --> 01:01:55,039 lot more our black boxes black box is 1185 01:02:02,440 --> 01:02:00,319 like great big toolbox maybe sized black 1186 01:02:04,990 --> 01:02:02,450 boxes I've never I've never seen one 1187 01:02:06,460 --> 01:02:05,000 I've never touched one all I can look at 1188 01:02:09,190 --> 01:02:06,470 is in the picture if you look in the 1189 01:02:11,769 --> 01:02:09,200 picture you'll see these black boxes so 1190 01:02:14,859 --> 01:02:11,779 yes actually one there's actually one 1191 01:02:16,809 --> 01:02:14,869 picture we found that had two tripods in 1192 01:02:22,809 --> 01:02:16,819 two black boxes one on top of each of 1193 01:02:27,930 --> 01:02:22,819 the tripods when he disappeared 1194 01:02:31,809 --> 01:02:27,940 to Miami and died in 1951 1195 01:02:37,839 --> 01:02:31,819 no one could visit the cast won't find 1196 01:02:42,130 --> 01:02:37,849 even one of those black boxes I mean no 1197 01:02:44,319 --> 01:02:42,140 one who is come forward has ever said 1198 01:02:46,690 --> 01:02:44,329 they'd ever found one of those black 1199 01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:46,700 boxes no it wasn't what everybody passed 1200 01:02:51,069 --> 01:02:48,770 away either they weren't with them they 1201 01:02:53,380 --> 01:02:51,079 were gone you know when when the when 1202 01:02:55,539 --> 01:02:53,390 the subsequent people when they found 1203 01:02:59,349 --> 01:02:55,549 out he had passed away and they went to 1204 01:03:01,660 --> 01:02:59,359 the castle there's no black box no one 1205 01:03:05,370 --> 01:03:01,670 ever saw what was inside those black 1206 01:03:08,170 --> 01:03:05,380 boxes no one ever saw those black boxes 1207 01:03:10,359 --> 01:03:08,180 contribute to the lifting whatever those 1208 01:03:14,049 --> 01:03:10,369 pulleys and block and tackle tackle 1209 01:03:17,309 --> 01:03:14,059 chains did no one's been ever ever been 1210 01:03:21,099 --> 01:03:17,319 able to lift anywhere close to these 1211 01:03:23,470 --> 01:03:21,109 tonnage of these rocks without the black 1212 01:03:26,829 --> 01:03:23,480 box and nobody's ever been able to use a 1213 01:03:30,220 --> 01:03:26,839 black box we believe that those black 1214 01:03:36,039 --> 01:03:30,230 boxes contributed some way to the 1215 01:03:38,680 --> 01:03:36,049 lifting of those huge brittle pieces of 1216 01:03:42,339 --> 01:03:38,690 rock I don't see how he even propped up 1217 01:03:45,789 --> 01:03:42,349 the tripod it's huge the tripod is huge 1218 01:03:49,990 --> 01:03:45,799 but the pieces of rock yeah these are 1219 01:03:54,549 --> 01:03:50,000 bigger so when you look at they're huge 1220 01:03:56,650 --> 01:03:54,559 compared to you know telephone poles I 1221 01:03:58,900 --> 01:03:56,660 guess they're I mean compared to him 1222 01:03:59,520 --> 01:03:58,910 because he's only five foot tall but 1223 01:04:03,450 --> 01:03:59,530 when you 1224 01:04:06,050 --> 01:04:03,460 see the massive pieces of rock that he 1225 01:04:12,870 --> 01:04:06,060 got up in the air they don't look so big 1226 01:04:15,600 --> 01:04:12,880 right over 20 30 years time span so and 1227 01:04:17,340 --> 01:04:15,610 then you said he moved it and there was 1228 01:04:22,380 --> 01:04:17,350 an interesting element you told me about 1229 01:04:25,680 --> 01:04:22,390 what he moved it where it lays today yes 1230 01:04:27,300 --> 01:04:25,690 yes he he moved it once he only moved 1231 01:04:31,500 --> 01:04:27,310 part of it because the rest of it he 1232 01:04:33,900 --> 01:04:31,510 built in his in the location is that it 1233 01:04:36,300 --> 01:04:33,910 is and now many of the elements were 1234 01:04:39,660 --> 01:04:36,310 built there after he moved it so we only 1235 01:04:42,450 --> 01:04:39,670 moved pieces of it I said the first the 1236 01:04:44,940 --> 01:04:42,460 first generation of it let's call it ok 1237 01:04:47,130 --> 01:04:44,950 but these black boxes now I have one 1238 01:04:51,360 --> 01:04:47,140 story you know I got to know the dose 1239 01:04:55,290 --> 01:04:51,370 and say we we done shows there and I've 1240 01:04:57,270 --> 01:04:55,300 gone down and I've done talks and the 1241 01:04:59,250 --> 01:04:57,280 ley line just real quick that when he 1242 01:05:02,280 --> 01:04:59,260 moved it that ley line where he put it 1243 01:05:03,690 --> 01:05:02,290 it's what exactly people we were 1244 01:05:05,460 --> 01:05:03,700 listening in many of them will know what 1245 01:05:09,990 --> 01:05:05,470 a ley line is but I'll explain quickly 1246 01:05:12,870 --> 01:05:10,000 their magnetic lines cross this the the 1247 01:05:15,300 --> 01:05:12,880 core of the earth that have been just 1248 01:05:18,690 --> 01:05:15,310 discovered by a guy whose last time we 1249 01:05:22,110 --> 01:05:18,700 believe is the ley le why yeah dr. Lai 1250 01:05:24,330 --> 01:05:22,120 and in Europe there are more stone 1251 01:05:27,330 --> 01:05:24,340 hinges than just the one Stonehenge 1252 01:05:29,880 --> 01:05:27,340 there are in Denmark and other places in 1253 01:05:32,210 --> 01:05:29,890 Europe and he discovered that these ley 1254 01:05:35,220 --> 01:05:32,220 lines are part of the magnetic field and 1255 01:05:38,310 --> 01:05:35,230 they pass right through many of these 1256 01:05:43,470 --> 01:05:38,320 stone henges and these hinges they also 1257 01:05:45,870 --> 01:05:43,480 formed the Bermuda Triangle coronated 1258 01:05:49,490 --> 01:05:45,880 people who follow ley lines that's 1259 01:05:55,560 --> 01:05:49,500 amazing now when he moved the castle 1260 01:06:00,710 --> 01:05:55,570 like some 10 miles from Florida City to 1261 01:06:04,470 --> 01:06:00,720 homestead he placed the castle we find 1262 01:06:10,020 --> 01:06:04,480 where the front door is on the very edge 1263 01:06:12,520 --> 01:06:10,030 of the ley line corner that forms the 1264 01:06:14,650 --> 01:06:12,530 Bermuda Triangle 1265 01:06:16,330 --> 01:06:14,660 that's that's amazing that's that's 1266 01:06:18,390 --> 01:06:16,340 crazy that's crazy but I didn't want you 1267 01:06:21,160 --> 01:06:18,400 to get too sidetracked 1268 01:06:23,710 --> 01:06:21,170 we need we need I mean there's so many 1269 01:06:26,440 --> 01:06:23,720 of these elements yeah yeah yeah one 1270 01:06:29,650 --> 01:06:26,450 human being this is not a tribe of 1271 01:06:31,690 --> 01:06:29,660 druids this is not a nation this is not 1272 01:06:34,600 --> 01:06:31,700 a nation of Egyptians building a 1273 01:06:38,590 --> 01:06:34,610 building a pyramid this is one human 1274 01:06:41,200 --> 01:06:38,600 being with 250 after David signed by the 1275 01:06:43,180 --> 01:06:41,210 people who said he's one guy nobody ever 1276 01:06:45,400 --> 01:06:43,190 helped him nobody watched him so there's 1277 01:06:48,040 --> 01:06:45,410 not one guy and he's doing all of this 1278 01:06:52,090 --> 01:06:48,050 and in a couple three decades right 1279 01:06:56,200 --> 01:06:52,100 right so so so you know you have these 1280 01:06:58,180 --> 01:06:56,210 this rock that isn't of of the earth you 1281 01:07:02,140 --> 01:06:58,190 know that's promising up you have this 1282 01:07:05,140 --> 01:07:02,150 ley-line you have this North Star the 1283 01:07:08,470 --> 01:07:05,150 black box is that a blast fired yeah all 1284 01:07:10,510 --> 01:07:08,480 right so I'm going back to the story I 1285 01:07:12,610 --> 01:07:10,520 was story to tell that I really want to 1286 01:07:16,360 --> 01:07:12,620 tell because I always a story it's not 1287 01:07:18,370 --> 01:07:16,370 verified so I'm with the docents the 1288 01:07:22,300 --> 01:07:18,380 books have been out a couple of years 1289 01:07:24,070 --> 01:07:22,310 and I'm hanging out at Coral Castle with 1290 01:07:26,260 --> 01:07:24,080 a film crew when I go to the docents I 1291 01:07:28,870 --> 01:07:26,270 go all right you guys read book yep 1292 01:07:32,170 --> 01:07:28,880 you've read the books anything I missed 1293 01:07:34,180 --> 01:07:32,180 they well not really one guy they go 1294 01:07:38,200 --> 01:07:34,190 well there's one story because we can't 1295 01:07:41,140 --> 01:07:38,210 verify it and he said when Homestead got 1296 01:07:43,990 --> 01:07:41,150 hit by Hurricane Andrew the only place 1297 01:07:45,940 --> 01:07:44,000 the National Guard could go was the 1298 01:07:48,010 --> 01:07:45,950 castle they set up camp around the 1299 01:07:51,130 --> 01:07:48,020 castle because it's the only place you 1300 01:07:54,790 --> 01:07:51,140 know had a and they so and then they set 1301 01:07:57,730 --> 01:07:54,800 up a communication space with radio and 1302 01:07:59,620 --> 01:07:57,740 they said the story is that the 1303 01:08:02,560 --> 01:07:59,630 communication space started getting 1304 01:08:05,140 --> 01:08:02,570 interference the the you know the radio 1305 01:08:07,930 --> 01:08:05,150 was getting interference Wow and they 1306 01:08:11,500 --> 01:08:07,940 said we heard the story that they 1307 01:08:13,810 --> 01:08:11,510 realized it in the well in the middle of 1308 01:08:16,059 --> 01:08:13,820 the castle seemed to be the place where 1309 01:08:19,360 --> 01:08:16,069 the interference was they the United 1310 01:08:21,970 --> 01:08:19,370 States Army Corps of Engineers it said 1311 01:08:24,910 --> 01:08:21,980 sure they get a diver the diver goes 1312 01:08:26,499 --> 01:08:24,920 down into the water way down into this 1313 01:08:30,729 --> 01:08:26,509 well that he carved 1314 01:08:33,189 --> 01:08:30,739 and they found a black box aha and they 1315 01:08:34,629 --> 01:08:33,199 pull the black box up and the army took 1316 01:08:36,819 --> 01:08:34,639 it away and nobody's ever heard anything 1317 01:08:39,370 --> 01:08:36,829 about it since of course 1318 01:08:43,089 --> 01:08:39,380 the docents tell me that's a story you 1319 01:08:45,069 --> 01:08:43,099 know no there's no way to verify it you 1320 01:08:47,199 --> 01:08:45,079 would think he'd store it in as absolute 1321 01:08:48,729 --> 01:08:47,209 most secure location on his property so 1322 01:08:50,829 --> 01:08:48,739 it makes sense it would be somewhere 1323 01:08:52,719 --> 01:08:50,839 there well makes a great story so I 1324 01:08:54,849 --> 01:08:52,729 wanted to tell him and it was yeah and 1325 01:08:56,259 --> 01:08:54,859 we you know I haven't had it in the book 1326 01:08:58,989 --> 01:08:56,269 because I always want to have something 1327 01:09:00,849 --> 01:08:58,999 to say that nobody's been able to read 1328 01:09:03,959 --> 01:09:00,859 the book so there it is yeah and I think 1329 01:09:07,539 --> 01:09:03,969 that see and there's so many cool things 1330 01:09:09,789 --> 01:09:07,549 about this guy and what he did that I 1331 01:09:11,829 --> 01:09:09,799 love that story even if it may not be 1332 01:09:12,939 --> 01:09:11,839 true and the docent said they have no 1333 01:09:14,589 --> 01:09:12,949 way of knowing it's true but they've 1334 01:09:16,599 --> 01:09:14,599 heard the story so they shared it with 1335 01:09:19,629 --> 01:09:16,609 me and I ignored it has anybody ever 1336 01:09:23,669 --> 01:09:19,639 like gone over Pete bit by bit over the 1337 01:09:26,709 --> 01:09:23,679 property to see if there is any like oh 1338 01:09:30,009 --> 01:09:26,719 there's a mecca they come they come with 1339 01:09:33,489 --> 01:09:30,019 with every device a measure there was a 1340 01:09:37,029 --> 01:09:33,499 guy came that I was told like this was 1341 01:09:39,069 --> 01:09:37,039 probably 20 years ago from MIT and he 1342 01:09:40,749 --> 01:09:39,079 measured everything and he said he'd be 1343 01:09:42,339 --> 01:09:40,759 back in three or four weeks because he'd 1344 01:09:44,649 --> 01:09:42,349 figured it out they never saw him again 1345 01:09:48,459 --> 01:09:44,659 but he measured everything there was 1346 01:09:50,370 --> 01:09:48,469 actually a guy from Australia who was so 1347 01:09:56,439 --> 01:09:50,380 interested in the castle that he thought 1348 01:09:57,819 --> 01:09:56,449 it needed better aerial photographs so 1349 01:09:59,830 --> 01:09:57,829 he came all the way from Australia 1350 01:10:02,410 --> 01:09:59,840 people come from all over the world and 1351 01:10:04,270 --> 01:10:02,420 do all kinds of I'm guessing and 1352 01:10:06,520 --> 01:10:04,280 measuring and calculating and trying to 1353 01:10:08,770 --> 01:10:06,530 figure out their own and it's fun you 1354 01:10:09,939 --> 01:10:08,780 know to hear it but alright but but 1355 01:10:11,620 --> 01:10:09,949 again they've never built their own 1356 01:10:14,080 --> 01:10:11,630 castle and there there's a guy in 1357 01:10:15,850 --> 01:10:14,090 Indiana or maybe Michigan now who has 1358 01:10:18,310 --> 01:10:15,860 come up with a way of for crumbing with 1359 01:10:19,629 --> 01:10:18,320 all butts and and I thought that was 1360 01:10:21,790 --> 01:10:19,639 really cool I thought he might be onto 1361 01:10:23,890 --> 01:10:21,800 something he might be but the problem is 1362 01:10:26,560 --> 01:10:23,900 there's no sand around the castle where 1363 01:10:28,899 --> 01:10:26,570 you know they would have taken it I mean 1364 01:10:31,870 --> 01:10:28,909 he would had to dig big holes in sand 1365 01:10:34,299 --> 01:10:31,880 and so people come around and and so the 1366 01:10:38,560 --> 01:10:34,309 guy from Australia he came over and 1367 01:10:40,270 --> 01:10:38,570 hired a pilot and he flew over the 1368 01:10:42,160 --> 01:10:40,280 castle and they took all 1369 01:10:44,530 --> 01:10:42,170 the pictures aerial pictures take him 1370 01:10:46,990 --> 01:10:44,540 always from Australia to do that these 1371 01:10:50,020 --> 01:10:47,000 people have thought everything they 1372 01:10:51,790 --> 01:10:50,030 could do because the mist as long as the 1373 01:10:54,460 --> 01:10:51,800 mystery stays a mystery and there are 1374 01:10:56,080 --> 01:10:54,470 people who think he just where's the guy 1375 01:10:57,970 --> 01:10:56,090 who was really good with levers and 1376 01:10:59,800 --> 01:10:57,980 fulcrums and never you know he was an 1377 01:11:01,390 --> 01:10:59,810 artisan and he never wanted anybody to 1378 01:11:03,790 --> 01:11:01,400 know any more than that so he taught 1379 01:11:05,350 --> 01:11:03,800 about all these other stories in the 1380 01:11:08,820 --> 01:11:05,360 black box and everything else just 1381 01:11:12,220 --> 01:11:08,830 because ed was playing with everybody 1382 01:11:13,930 --> 01:11:12,230 artists artists can be very very 1383 01:11:16,180 --> 01:11:13,940 secretive when they have a method that 1384 01:11:18,070 --> 01:11:16,190 is being revered and they want to be 1385 01:11:19,750 --> 01:11:18,080 known for something they could be very 1386 01:11:22,420 --> 01:11:19,760 secretive on their process so that's 1387 01:11:25,600 --> 01:11:22,430 that's not surprising what surprising is 1388 01:11:27,970 --> 01:11:25,610 this the lake this guy went it's just 1389 01:11:30,040 --> 01:11:27,980 you know I I mean because he could have 1390 01:11:32,020 --> 01:11:30,050 taught and and so many people could have 1391 01:11:34,570 --> 01:11:32,030 benefited off from knowing what he knew 1392 01:11:36,850 --> 01:11:34,580 because this he knew this is a feat none 1393 01:11:40,750 --> 01:11:36,860 had accomplished before there was a 1394 01:11:42,280 --> 01:11:40,760 question in the chat room Rick is asking 1395 01:11:45,370 --> 01:11:42,290 and I'm curious about if there's been 1396 01:11:48,400 --> 01:11:45,380 any other odd phenomena in the area UFOs 1397 01:11:51,340 --> 01:11:48,410 ghostly like things are odd apparitions 1398 01:11:54,880 --> 01:11:51,350 around this castle not that I know of 1399 01:11:56,860 --> 01:11:54,890 no but I'm I'm I don't live down there 1400 01:11:58,750 --> 01:11:56,870 and I just spent all my time working off 1401 01:12:00,880 --> 01:11:58,760 of the cast or when we built the book 1402 01:12:03,640 --> 01:12:00,890 you know built a story around the book 1403 01:12:06,820 --> 01:12:03,650 and the elements but I've talked we 1404 01:12:10,390 --> 01:12:06,830 talked to a lot of people but you know 1405 01:12:13,060 --> 01:12:10,400 this there's no seances that have 1406 01:12:15,010 --> 01:12:13,070 brought edy back to life and having 1407 01:12:19,030 --> 01:12:15,020 visited or any of those things that we 1408 01:12:21,550 --> 01:12:19,040 know about I always thought I mean he's 1409 01:12:23,590 --> 01:12:21,560 basically buried in a potter's grave in 1410 01:12:25,720 --> 01:12:23,600 Miami because people didn't know him and 1411 01:12:27,730 --> 01:12:25,730 didn't claim in it took a while for him 1412 01:12:29,560 --> 01:12:27,740 to find out I think I always thought 1413 01:12:33,010 --> 01:12:29,570 they ought to move him and they're in 1414 01:12:35,410 --> 01:12:33,020 you know on the property they'd say it 1415 01:12:37,150 --> 01:12:35,420 had belonged on the property did they 1416 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:37,160 find where he's literally at his 1417 01:12:41,620 --> 01:12:38,090 apartment 1418 01:12:44,350 --> 01:12:41,630 oh yeah he's gonna be where he is he's 1419 01:12:47,110 --> 01:12:44,360 buried in a public cemetery in Miami 1420 01:12:52,350 --> 01:12:47,120 and they know he wasn't haunting the 1421 01:12:54,300 --> 01:12:52,360 place I mean he put a lot into his place 1422 01:12:56,860 --> 01:12:54,310 topic 1423 01:12:59,440 --> 01:12:56,870 parallel to it but I least think he 1424 01:13:02,320 --> 01:12:59,450 ought to be buried I've told the people 1425 01:13:05,530 --> 01:13:02,330 that owned they they piata be buried on 1426 01:13:09,160 --> 01:13:05,540 the castle truly my in my opinion but 1427 01:13:11,950 --> 01:13:09,170 you know what what do I tell them living 1428 01:13:14,650 --> 01:13:11,960 offering tours of this castle - right he 1429 01:13:17,920 --> 01:13:14,660 yeah he charged 25 cents 10 cents 1430 01:13:20,020 --> 01:13:17,930 whatever depending and and he sold 1431 01:13:23,260 --> 01:13:20,030 vegetables traded vegetables he grew 1432 01:13:27,820 --> 01:13:23,270 vegetables if we're heating oil he he 1433 01:13:32,430 --> 01:13:27,830 raised some some a little bit of 1434 01:13:35,920 --> 01:13:32,440 livestock and he had a complete cooker 1435 01:13:39,160 --> 01:13:35,930 crock pot if you will barbecue made out 1436 01:13:41,200 --> 01:13:39,170 of pieces of engine parts and you can 1437 01:13:44,800 --> 01:13:41,210 it's all those are all still there you 1438 01:13:46,000 --> 01:13:44,810 can see where he cooked and he ate you 1439 01:13:49,810 --> 01:13:46,010 know here's a little guy didn't need a 1440 01:13:52,960 --> 01:13:49,820 whole lot he he took care of himself he 1441 01:13:56,200 --> 01:13:52,970 and he traded out some of his vegetables 1442 01:13:59,320 --> 01:13:56,210 and he got some revenue and here's 1443 01:14:01,600 --> 01:13:59,330 probably another peek into his ingenious 1444 01:14:04,750 --> 01:14:01,610 or his IQ yeah 1445 01:14:07,810 --> 01:14:04,760 over the decades he never charged 1446 01:14:10,630 --> 01:14:07,820 anybody come back to the castle a second 1447 01:14:15,070 --> 01:14:10,640 time and people swore he would always 1448 01:14:17,320 --> 01:14:15,080 remember him so somebody there was 1449 01:14:21,280 --> 01:14:17,330 somebody went to his Florida City place 1450 01:14:24,310 --> 01:14:21,290 and paid I think 10 cents and like 12 1451 01:14:28,180 --> 01:14:24,320 years later she came to the homestead 1452 01:14:29,410 --> 01:14:28,190 new one and he remembered that she had 1453 01:14:31,990 --> 01:14:29,420 been to the other one he says why I 1454 01:14:34,150 --> 01:14:32,000 never charge if you come again and 1455 01:14:36,790 --> 01:14:34,160 people would swear how the heck could he 1456 01:14:38,830 --> 01:14:36,800 remember when I was in here for 10 years 1457 01:14:41,680 --> 01:14:38,840 and then he remembered and he said I 1458 01:14:43,270 --> 01:14:41,690 never charge if you come back when you 1459 01:14:46,600 --> 01:14:43,280 come huh 1460 01:14:50,470 --> 01:14:46,610 he was really different he had a find it 1461 01:14:52,300 --> 01:14:50,480 said he had a sign that said um ring 1462 01:14:53,740 --> 01:14:52,310 twice if you didn't ring twice he 1463 01:14:58,390 --> 01:14:53,750 wouldn't answer and he wouldn't give you 1464 01:15:01,390 --> 01:14:58,400 it to her ring twice for tour you know 1465 01:15:04,240 --> 01:15:01,400 put the money in ring twice if somebody 1466 01:15:05,950 --> 01:15:04,250 rang once he would note or did he walk 1467 01:15:07,120 --> 01:15:05,960 him through or did he just let them 1468 01:15:09,399 --> 01:15:07,130 water in there 1469 01:15:11,379 --> 01:15:09,409 let'em he led them they had to follow 1470 01:15:13,600 --> 01:15:11,389 they were not allowed to ask any 1471 01:15:16,180 --> 01:15:13,610 questions they listened to every was 1472 01:15:18,010 --> 01:15:16,190 totally proud he chattered and he told 1473 01:15:19,959 --> 01:15:18,020 all about how wonderful it was we 1474 01:15:21,520 --> 01:15:19,969 interviewed people about this and they 1475 01:15:23,709 --> 01:15:21,530 wrote little things into margins on the 1476 01:15:26,950 --> 01:15:23,719 affidavits that we all that helped us 1477 01:15:30,070 --> 01:15:26,960 come compose the book and so he says he 1478 01:15:31,840 --> 01:15:30,080 says you don't in your you're not ask 1479 01:15:34,030 --> 01:15:31,850 any questions nobody ever gets ahead of 1480 01:15:36,640 --> 01:15:34,040 me and he pridefully showed all these 1481 01:15:38,740 --> 01:15:36,650 elements that we are talking about and 1482 01:15:43,390 --> 01:15:38,750 then at the end they were allowed to ask 1483 01:15:52,030 --> 01:15:43,400 questions yes if they'd behave they 1484 01:15:53,379 --> 01:15:52,040 behave if they they and if they didn't 1485 01:15:54,939 --> 01:15:53,389 ring the bell twice they weren't even 1486 01:15:59,080 --> 01:15:54,949 gonna get it to her he had a lot of 1487 01:16:02,080 --> 01:15:59,090 rules so he was a bit was the era great 1488 01:16:05,200 --> 01:16:02,090 and strange okay I question for you 1489 01:16:07,899 --> 01:16:05,210 Agnes did she ever know what he had 1490 01:16:10,000 --> 01:16:07,909 created for her yes yes what does she 1491 01:16:11,919 --> 01:16:10,010 think we establish it there is question 1492 01:16:15,250 --> 01:16:11,929 whether Agnes really exists didn't by 1493 01:16:16,959 --> 01:16:15,260 the way no but then but then we we 1494 01:16:18,459 --> 01:16:16,969 reached out and found her niece she was 1495 01:16:22,090 --> 01:16:18,469 still alive when we write in the book 1496 01:16:25,360 --> 01:16:22,100 and and so we think Agnes in one way or 1497 01:16:28,060 --> 01:16:25,370 shape or another it but and so people in 1498 01:16:30,490 --> 01:16:28,070 the community knew that he had contacted 1499 01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:30,500 Agnes and her people in Latvia who now 1500 01:16:34,300 --> 01:16:32,330 aware of this because of the internet 1501 01:16:34,780 --> 01:16:34,310 and the Iron Curtain coming down and 1502 01:16:37,870 --> 01:16:34,790 what have you 1503 01:16:41,260 --> 01:16:37,880 yeah in that the best I can tell you is 1504 01:16:43,930 --> 01:16:41,270 Agnes did yes did exist she knew about 1505 01:16:46,419 --> 01:16:43,940 it and she said that little guy is weird 1506 01:16:47,890 --> 01:16:46,429 and I don't care where she go to Castle 1507 01:16:49,330 --> 01:16:47,900 or not I'm not coming in the United 1508 01:16:52,570 --> 01:16:49,340 States to mess with him 1509 01:16:54,010 --> 01:16:52,580 see you though she knew it she knew for 1510 01:16:55,629 --> 01:16:54,020 him to have the genius that he does 1511 01:16:58,270 --> 01:16:55,639 seems like geniuses are a little awkward 1512 01:17:02,439 --> 01:16:58,280 so she calls she called it out right 1513 01:17:05,050 --> 01:17:02,449 yeah she you know she was 16 he was 26 1514 01:17:06,970 --> 01:17:05,060 and somehow she figured out he was weird 1515 01:17:08,979 --> 01:17:06,980 night I think he did a lot of great 1516 01:17:11,560 --> 01:17:08,989 things but I think he is also weird I 1517 01:17:13,300 --> 01:17:11,570 think she was yeah right yeah thank 1518 01:17:14,770 --> 01:17:13,310 goodness so a go ahead and give the 1519 01:17:16,209 --> 01:17:14,780 title of your book in your website and 1520 01:17:18,399 --> 01:17:16,219 your other book the New York Times best 1521 01:17:20,950 --> 01:17:18,409 seller I mean my goodness you can't go 1522 01:17:23,709 --> 01:17:20,960 yeah we wrote quarrel can 1523 01:17:25,959 --> 01:17:23,719 so Jack Heffron and I did it's called 1524 01:17:28,920 --> 01:17:25,969 Coral Castle the mystery of Ed 1525 01:17:31,510 --> 01:17:28,930 Leedskalnin and his American Stonehenge 1526 01:17:33,160 --> 01:17:31,520 and it's a there's a picture of Ed in 1527 01:17:36,670 --> 01:17:33,170 the castle elements some of them 1528 01:17:39,070 --> 01:17:36,680 undercover my first book was Crosley 1529 01:17:42,220 --> 01:17:39,080 it's a New York Times best seller it's 1530 01:17:44,680 --> 01:17:42,230 the story of the two brothers Crosley 1531 01:17:48,010 --> 01:17:44,690 who created consumer radio for the world 1532 01:17:51,400 --> 01:17:48,020 just like Henry Ford who didn't invent 1533 01:17:54,790 --> 01:17:51,410 the car can create created consumer cars 1534 01:17:57,670 --> 01:17:54,800 for the world that took place in Detroit 1535 01:17:59,650 --> 01:17:57,680 the Crosley's built wlw the most 1536 01:18:02,410 --> 01:17:59,660 powerful radio station in the world and 1537 01:18:04,630 --> 01:18:02,420 they built Crosley radios and then they 1538 01:18:07,810 --> 01:18:04,640 built the Crosley car and so forth in 1539 01:18:10,600 --> 01:18:07,820 between those two books that are join is 1540 01:18:12,910 --> 01:18:10,610 the book Cincinnatus which is a novel I 1541 01:18:15,630 --> 01:18:12,920 wrote with David Stern he wrote The 1542 01:18:20,229 --> 01:18:15,640 Blair Witch Project among other things 1543 01:18:22,600 --> 01:18:20,239 it is the story of ads secret not being 1544 01:18:24,990 --> 01:18:22,610 buried and lost forever but passed 1545 01:18:28,420 --> 01:18:25,000 through the Society of the Cincinnati 1546 01:18:30,990 --> 01:18:28,430 the oldest and this is true but the fact 1547 01:18:33,280 --> 01:18:31,000 that he passed it is not true the oldest 1548 01:18:34,959 --> 01:18:33,290 if you look up the Society of the 1549 01:18:37,860 --> 01:18:34,969 Cincinnati for which some say his name 1550 01:18:40,240 --> 01:18:37,870 for they're still headquartered on 1551 01:18:44,140 --> 01:18:40,250 Massachusetts Avenue in Washington DC 1552 01:18:46,000 --> 01:18:44,150 the oldest military organization on the 1553 01:18:47,650 --> 01:18:46,010 North American continent most people 1554 01:18:51,780 --> 01:18:47,660 don't know about it founded by Henry 1555 01:18:56,979 --> 01:18:51,790 Major General Henry Knox and so they 1556 01:19:06,430 --> 01:18:56,989 purportedly fix fictionally have Ed's 1557 01:19:10,209 --> 01:19:06,440 secret kind of been a Marik in da Vinci 1558 01:19:13,570 --> 01:19:10,219 Code type book we got the sequel working 1559 01:19:15,100 --> 01:19:13,580 almost done but it's but it's it so 1560 01:19:18,640 --> 01:19:15,110 there's too much that actually have 1561 01:19:21,700 --> 01:19:18,650 Coral Castle once is true as we know it 1562 01:19:24,400 --> 01:19:21,710 it to be and we didn't take sides on the 1563 01:19:26,920 --> 01:19:24,410 theories we're just fascinated by it 1564 01:19:31,630 --> 01:19:26,930 we're fascinated but we're fascinated by 1565 01:19:33,010 --> 01:19:31,640 all the theories yeah there's a lion so 1566 01:19:34,840 --> 01:19:33,020 you have to read the book you decide for 1567 01:19:37,690 --> 01:19:34,850 yourself you have to go 1568 01:19:41,050 --> 01:19:37,700 to Coral Castle and I check it out 1569 01:19:44,080 --> 01:19:41,060 everyone they do not be disappointed 1570 01:19:45,490 --> 01:19:44,090 they bear claw I gotta say thank you so 1571 01:19:47,620 --> 01:19:45,500 much for coming on the show tonight it 1572 01:19:49,120 --> 01:19:47,630 was absolutely fascinating and great to 1573 01:19:52,690 --> 01:19:49,130 have you on I'm glad you made it 1574 01:19:54,430 --> 01:19:52,700 I appreciate you having me yeah so hold 1575 01:19:56,760 --> 01:19:54,440 the line I'm gonna close the show up you 1576 01:19:59,710 --> 01:19:56,770 guys I come to the bottom of another 1577 01:20:00,940 --> 01:19:59,720 very cool show this is really nice 1578 01:20:03,130 --> 01:20:00,950 remember you could catch me here every 1579 01:20:04,900 --> 01:20:03,140 Friday 8:00 p.m. central 9 p.m. Eastern 1580 01:20:06,610 --> 01:20:04,910 you've been listening to me Heidi House 1581 01:20:08,890 --> 01:20:06,620 of the outlander remembering awesome 1582 01:20:11,110 --> 01:20:08,900 it's weird we're here and stay tuned for 1583 01:20:13,600 --> 01:20:11,120 UFO headline news coming right up that I